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'Pole02' Families covered: Early Poole family in Wales, Pole of Montagu Beli, lord of Cegidfa in Powys 1. td 15Gruffydd   A. td 14Gwyn td 2  td 14m. Annes (dau of Tudur ap Einion Vychan, of Mochdref, ab Elystan Glodrydd) td 2  i. td 13Einion td 3  td 13m. Jonet (dau of Llewelyn ap Einion ap Meilir Grych) td 3  a. td 12Adda td 4  td 12m. Jonet (dau of Ifan Vychan ap Ifan Wynn ap Ifan ap Dafydd Goch) td 4  (1) td 11Dafydd td 5a name=lk1 id=lk1a td 11m. Angharad (dau of Gruffydd ap Adda Lloyd ap Meredydd ap Ifan ap Madog ap Einion ap Cynfelyn ap Dolphin) td 5  (A) td 10Dafydd Vychan td 6  (i) td 9Sir Hugh Poole td 7a name=con1 id=con1a td 9m. Jonet (dau of Gruffydd ap Rhys ap Meredydd) td 7  (a) td 8Gruffydd Poole td 8  td 8..wwwales30.php#lklom. Eva (dau of John ap Goronwy ap Ifan ap Einion, of Gwynfryn) a td 8  ((1)) td 7'Sir' Owen Poole of Llandecwyn (a 1519, priest) td 9  td 7m1. Margaret (dau of Dafydd ap Ifan ap Howel ap Rhys ap Ifan) td 9  ((A)) td 6Sir RIchard Poole (a 1558) td 10  td 6m. Ellen (dau of Owen Llyod of Peniarth ucha) td 10  td valign=top((i)) td 5strongpole06.php#topAnthony Poole of Cae Nest (bur 1629)astrong @1a@ td 11a name=lk2 id=lk2a td 5 Griffith shows Anthony as son not only of Richard & Ellen but also of Anthony & Ann Anwyl (see @1b@ below), thereby indicating uncertainty as to his parentage. td 11  td 5m. Elizabeth (dau of Hugh Gwyn of Pennarth) td 10  td valign=top((ii)) td 5Annes font probably of this generation td 11  td 5..lllewis03.php#lnk2m. Edward of Maes y neuadda td 9  td 7m2. ?? (dau of Gruffydd ap William) td 9  ((B)) td 6Thomas Poole (d 1618) td 10a name=lk3 id=lk3a td 6m. Catherine Meredydd td 9  ((C)) td 6Humphrey td 9  ((D)) td 6Elliw td 10  td 6..wwwales29.php#dau1m. Ellis Prys of Plas Iolyn (Dr.)a td 9  ((E)) td 6Margaret td 10  td 6m1. Gruffydd ap Ednyfed td 10a name=lk4 id=lk4a td 6m2. Eliza ap Robert Wynn td 9  ((F)) td 6Elin td 10  td 6m. Thomas ap Dafydd ap Robert ap Rhys ap Meredydd td 9  ((G)) td 6Anna td 10  td 6..wwwales29.php#dau1m1. Robert Prys ap Dr. Ellis Prysa td 10  td 6m2. Rowland ap Thomas ap Gruffydd, of Coedyrhygyn td 9  ((H)) td 6Catherine td 10  td 6m1. William ap Eliza ap William, of Trawsfynydd td 10  td 6..ggglynne1.php#da1m2. Morris ap William, of Glyn Llifon (d 1588)a td 8  td valign=topem((2))em td 7emstrongSir Richard Poole, Constable of Harlech Castle font SEE @2@ BELOWstrongem td 9  td 7emm. Margaret, Countess of Salisbury (dau of George, Duke of Clarence)em td 7  (b) td 8Anthony Poole @1b@ td 8  td 8..aaanwyl1.php#dau2m. Ann (dau of Lewis Anwyl of Park) a td 8  td 8 Griffith shows Anthony as of this generation but dates in the record of the Anwyl family suggest that Ann was of a later generation, one that would fit Anthony & Ann being parents of the above-mentioned Anthony of Cae Nest. See @1a@ above. td 2  ii. td 13Eva td 3  td 13m. Madog Vychan ap Madog ap Urien td 16font size=2 face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serifa name=con2 id=con2a td 16p p p p td 16 The parents of the Sir Richard Pole who married Margaret, Countess of Salisbury, are normally shown as the following JeffreyGeoffrey & Edith. It is strange that further knowledge of his ancestry is not well-known. We show above the pedigree claimed for Sir Richard by J.E. Griffith but admit to being sceptical of it, not least because without the under-mentioned relationship between Edith St. John & King Henry VII, or something similar, no easy explanation is at hand to explain Richard's high-profile marriage. We suspect that the following Geoffrey was of the family shown on pole01.php#topPole01a but have no evidence to support that view. td 16Sir Jeffrey (Geoffrey) Pole of Buckinghamshire td 16..ss4tzstjohn03.php#linklo target=_selfm. Edith St. John (dau of Sir Oliver St. John of Penmark, later of Bletsho)a 1. td 15Sir Richard Pole (d 11.1504) font strongSEE SUGGESTED (BUT NOT SUPPORTED) ALTERNATIVE PARENTAGE AT @2@ ABOVEstrong   td 15 Sir Richard Pole may have been chosen by King Henry VII as husband for his wife's cousin Margaret on the basis that he was 'safe' since Richard's mother (Edith) was a half-sister of Henry's own mother, Margaret Beaufort.   td 15 plantagenet2.php#war2 target=_self(22.09.1494) Margaret Plantagenet, Countess of Salisbury (b c1469, d 27.05.1541, dau of George Plantagenet, Duke of Clarence)a a name=link2 id=link2a td 15 Had Richard III defeated Henry Tudor at Bosworth and Edward IV been declared illegitimate, and assuming that Richard III then had no surviving issue himself, it is probable that the claim to England's throne would have passed through Margaret Plantagenet. Assuming for a moment that Margaret would still have married Sir Richard had Henry Tudor not won Bosworth, surely very unlikely, such a claim would then have passed into the Hastings family and then, alongside the barony of Hastings, into the ..qrrawdon01.php#link2 target=_selfRawdona family which later acquired the earldom of Loudoun. The succession to that hypothetical (and irrelevant albeit rather interesting) claim has since passed, sometimes through female lines, alongside the earldom of Loudoun.   A. td 14Henry Pole, Lord Montagu (b c1492, d 09.01.15389) td 2  td 14 Henry was executed by Henry VIII for treason and his title was forfeited. td 2  td 14..nnnevill03.php#linklo target=_selfm. Jane Neville (d before 26.10.1538, dau of George Neville, Lord Abergavenny)a td 2  i. td 13Henry Pole (d unm after 09.1542) td 2  ii. td 13Katherine Pole (d 23.09.1576) td 3  td 13..hh4aahastings03.php#top target=_selfm. (25.06.1532) Francis Hastings, 2nd Earl of Huntingdon (d 20.06.1561)a td 2  iii. td 13Winifred Pole td 3  td 13m1. Sir Thomas Hastings (dsp) td 3  td 13..bb4aebarrington02.php#top target=_selfm2. Sir Thomas Barrington of Barrington Halla a name=link1 id=link1a B. td 14Sir Geoffrey Pole   C. td 14Sir Arthur Pole td 2  td 14m. Jane Lewknor (dau of Sir Roger Lewknor) td 2  i. td 13Henry Pole   D. td 14Reginald Pole, Cardinal   E. td 14Ursula Pole (d 12.08.1570) td 2  td 14..ss4tzstafford02.php#linkup target=_selfm. (16.02.151589) Henry Stafford, 1st Lord Stafford (b 18.09.1501, d 30.04.1563)a 2. td 15Eleanor Pole redprobably of this generation   td 15..uvverney3.php#dahim. Sir Ralph Verney of King's Langley (d 06.07.1528)a table p2Main sources: br (1) For upper section (uploaded 09.01.11) : Griffith's Pedigrees (Cae Nest, p352)br (2) For lower section (uoploaded 04.01.04) : BE1883 (Pole of Montagu), TCP (Montagu)br font face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif#topBack to top of pagea p ?php ?