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'Ruthven1' Families covered: Ruthven of Ruthven Sweyn font probably father of .. 51. td 13Thor, lord of Crawford (a 1130) 5  5A. td 12Sweyn, lord of Crawford (a 1188) 5  td 13 This Sweyn has already been reported on '..cc4rzcrawford01.php#top target=_selfCrawford01a' although that page shows that Thor, Sweyn's father, was son of Leofwine of Northumbria rather than a Sweyn. The duplication will be removed when clarification has been obtained on the issue reported below. td 2  5i. td 11Alan (or Walter) of Ruthven td 3  td 11..cc4rzcrawford01.php#top target=_selfm(1?). Eve (dau of Swane Thorson of Crawford)a td 3  td 11..mm4aemaule01.php#link1 target=_selfm(2?). Cecily de Maule (dau of Sir William de Maule of Foulis)a td 3  td 11 We are presently following TSP's report that Alan of Ruthven was son of Sweyn of Crawford. However, we have received advice from a site visitor that Alan of Ruthven's father was called Walter and that Sweyn was Alan's father-in-law. We show here (for the moment, but hope to obtain clarification of the position in due course) that Alan married twice and that his children reported below were all by Cecily de Maule, as reported by TSP. Please note that in due course we will have to remove from this page (at least) one of the references to Sweyn of Crawford - he was surely not both Alan's father and his father-in-law. td 3  5a. td 10Sir Walter of Ruthven (a 1245) td 4  td 10..ss4tzstrathearn1.php#strth1 target=_selfm. Cecilia of Strathearn (dau of Gilbert, 3rd Earl of Strathearn)a td 4  5(1) td 9Sir Gilbert of Ruthven (dsp 1266-79) td 4  5(2) td 9Sir William de Ruthven of that ilk (a 1298) td 5  5(A) td 8Walter de Ruthven (d by 1330) td 6  5(i) td 7William de Ruthven of that ilk (d by 04.1346) td 7  5(a) td 6William Ruthven of that ilk (d before 25.06.1376) td 8  td 6m. Johanna td 8  5((1)) td 5Sir William Ruthven of that ilk (a 1400) td 9  5((A)) td 4Sir William Ruthven of that ilk (a 1426) td 10a name=link1a 5((i)) td 3Sir John Ruthven of that ilk (d c1454) td 11  5((a)) td 2 Patrick Ruthven of that ilk td 12  td 2..cc4rzcranstoun01.php#top target=_selfm. ?? Cranstoun (dau of Sir Thomas Cranstoun of that ilk)a td 12  td 2table width=100 14 valign=top(((1))) 73bruthven2.php#top target=_selfWilliam Ruthven, 1st Lord (d 1528)ab 13div align=centerfont size=1 face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif--div m1. Isabel Levington (dau of Levington of Saltcoats) div align=centerfont size=1 face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif--div   m2. Christian Forbes (dau of William Forbes, 3rd Lord) div align=centerfont size=1 face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif--br 505div table td 10  5((ii)) td 2Margaret Ruthven font probably of this generation 10 div align=centerfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=1..div td 11  td 2..dddrummond01.php#ork1 target=_selfm. Sir Walter Drummond of Cargill and Stobhall (d 1455)a 10 div align=centerfont face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif size=1..div td 9  5((B)) td 4David Ruthven of Murchall td 7  5(b) td 6Margaret Ruthven td 8  td 6m. (1346) Sir Alexander (or John) de Seton (dsp c1346) td 5  5(B) td 8Gilbert de Ruthven td 4  5(3) td 9daughter td 5  td 9m. Sir Patrick Edgar td 3  5b.+ td 10other issue - Henry, Adam td 2  5ii. td 11Walter table p2Main sources: TSP (Gowrie), BP1999 (Gowrie).br font face=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif#topBack to top of pagea p ?php ?