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Families covered: Lords of Friw (Rhis) Llwyd, Family of Gwydir, Family of Ystumcegid, Vaughan of Glasfryn, Williams of Marnhull, Williams of Minster

Griffith, Lord of Friw/Rhiw Llwyd

m. Lenki/Lleucu (dau of Llowarch Vaughan ap Llowarch Holbwrch, Lord of Meriadog)

David, Lord of Friw/Rhiw Llwyd (a 1300)

m. Efa (dau of Gruffydd Fychan ap Gruffydd of Penyfed)

Hywel (3rd son)

m. Efa (dau of Ieuan ap Hywel of Ystumcegid)

Maredudd (Meredydd or Meredith) 'of Gwydir' (a 1352)

m. Morfydd (dau of Ieuan ap David Goch ap Trahaiarn Goch of Lleyn)

Robert 'of Gwydir'

The following is supported by Griffith's Pedigrees (Gwydir, p280).

m. Angharad (dau of David ap Llwelyn, of Cefn Melgoed)

(1)

Ievan (Evan) (b c1468, d 1468)

m1. Catherine (dau of Rhys ap Howel Vychan, of Bron y foel)

(A)

Meredith of Cwm Penanmaen & Gwydir (b 1459-60, d 18.03.1525)

m1. Alice (dau of William ap Griffith ap Robin of Cochwillan)

(i)

John Wynne of Gwydir (d 1559)

m. Elen Lloyd (dau of Moris ap John ap Meredith of Clenenney)

(ii)

Rhys Wynn

The following comes from Griffith's Pedigrees (Pedigree of Rhys Wynn ap Meredydd, p193) which confuses the issue slightly by including one reference to Rhys Wynn ap Rhys Wynn when it appears that it should be just Rhys Wynn.

m. Margaret (dau/heir of Robert of Llwynbedw, m2. Tudur Thomas ap Dafydd)

(a)

John

m. Agnes/Annes (dau of John ap Robert ap Llewelyn ap Ithel, of Castellmarch)

The following comes from Griffith's Pedigrees (Castellmarch, p191).

((1))

Humphrey of Llwynbedw

m. Catherine (Dau of Evan Goch of Llanengan)

((2))

William of Glyn Lligwy (dsp)

m. Elin (dau of Morris)

((3))

Ellis

m. Ales (dau of Thomas Cadwaladr)

((4))

John

m. Jane Griffith

((5))

Ales

m. John Lloyd of Bodfari

((6))

Jane

m. John ap Robert ap Richard, of Tyn Coed

(b)

Gaynor

(c)

Jane

m. ?? (heir of Cocksidia)

(d)

Elin

m. Hugh David ap Guttyn, of Taihirion

(iii)

Cadwalader

Provisionally we follow Griffith in showing this Cadwalader (father of Marsli) as an illegitimate son below.

(iv)

Margaret

m1. Rhys ap Dafydd ap Gwilim, of Llwydiarth

m2. Evan ap John ap Meredydd, of Bryknir

m3. (sp) Robert Vaughan of Bronheulog

(v)

Jonet

m1. Edmund Griffith of Carnarvon

m2. Sir John Puleston

(vi)

Catherine Lloyd

m. Rowland Griffith of Plas Newydd (d 1552-3)

(vii)

Catherine Wen

m. Lewis ap Evan of Pengwern (d 1551)

(viii)

Lowry

m. Rhydderch ap Dafydd ap Meredydd

(ix)

Margery or Marsli

m. Thomas Griffith ap Jenkin, of Coed Rhygyn then Clynnog

(x)+

other issue (dsp) - William, Rhydderch

m2. Gwenhwyfer (dau of Gruffydd ap Howel ap Farf, of Treiorwerth, relict of Robert Griffith of Plas Newydd)

(xii)

Elizabeth

m. John Wynn ap Robert, of Penllech

(xiii)

Ellen (d unm)

p. Margaret (dau of Morris ap John ap Meredydd, of Clenenney) @1@ below

(xiv)

Humphrey Wynn of Cesail Gyfarch

m. Catherine (dau of Evan ap Griffith ap Meredydd ap Gwilim Powys, of Cwmbywydd)

(xv)

Cadwaladr of Wenallt

The following comes from Griffith's Pedigrees (Glasfryn, The Vaughans, p345).

m. Jane (a 1578, dau of Thomas ap Morris ap Gruffydd ap Ifan, of Plas Du)

(a)

Thomas Vaughan 'of Glasfryn'

m. Lowry (dau of John Wynne ap William, of Pennarth)

((1))

Cadwaladr Vaughan 'of Glasfryn' (b c1565)

m. Jane (dau of Thomas ap Gruffydd Madryn)

((A))

John Vaughan 'of Glasfryn' (d 05.11.1664)

m. Winifred (dau of Richard Lloyd ap Dafydd ap Richard ap Owen, of Trailyn)

((i))

Cadwaladr Vaughan (b 1646-7, a 1671, rector of Osgarthorpe in Leicestershire)

((a))+

issue - John (b c1684, vicar of Belton in Leicestershire), Thomas (b c1689, d 06.09.1747)

((ii))

Jane Vaughan (bur 03.10.1703)

m. John Lloyd of Trallwyn

((iii))+

other issue - David (b c1653, a 1686, vicar of Fletching in Sussex), Thomas, Dorothy, Gaynor

((2))+

other issue - John, Hugh, Richard, Jonet, Catherine, Mary, Gaynor

(b)

Marsli

m. (c1578) Maurice ap Robert Wynne of Glyn (d before 16.04.1611)

(c)+

other isseu - John, Gruffydd, Robert, Owen, Humphrey, Rowland, Margaret, Agnes

(xvi)

Annes

m. Robert ap Rhys Wynn Salesbury

(xvii)

Elin

m. Edward Stanley (Constable of Harlech Castle)

(xviii)

Gwen

m. Owen ap Reinallt ap Meyrick, of Glynlligwy

(xix)

Ales

m. Thomas ap Rhys ap Bennet, of Bodelwyddan

(xx)

Jane

m. Cadwaladr ap Robert, of Rhiwlas

(xxi)

Margaret

m. John Griffith of Cichle (son of Sir William of Penrhyn)

(xxii)

Elliw

m. John Hookes of Conway

The following John was not mentioned by Griffith but Visitation (London, 1633-5, Williams) reports that a natural son of Meredith was ...

(xxiii)

John of Coytmore in Carnarvon

m. Jonet (dau of Hoel ap Rhese)

(a)

William

m. Katherine (dau of Rhees ap Thomas of Nantmore)

((1))

John ap William (Williams) of Marhehull, Dorset (a 1634)

m. Joane Allen (dau of Thomas Allen of London, sister of the Aldernan)

Visitation ends by naming 5 children. BEB1841 (Williams of Minster) starts with John, brother of Sir Edmund of Marnhull, whom we presume to be the elder sons.

((A))

Sir Edmund Williams of Marnhull

((B))

Sir John Williams of London, 1st Bart of Minster in Kent (a 1642)

((i))

Sir John Williams, 2nd Bart of Minster Court

m. Susan Skipwith (dau of Sir Thomas Skipwith, Bart of Metherlingham)

((a))

Mary Williams (d 12.1710)

m1. (06.1690) Charles Petty, Lord Shelburne (dsp 04.1696)

m2. (by 12.1696) Henry Conyngham of Slane (d 1705/6)

m3. (1706) Robert Dalway (Colonel)

((C))+

other issue - Thomas, Cary, Anne

(B)+

other issue - Robert, John

m2. Gwenhwyfer (dau of Madog Vychan of Llwyndurys)

(D)

Gruffydd Vaughan

m. ?? (dau of Owen ap Gruffydd ap Madog)

(i)

Dafydd Lloyd

(E)

Evan

(F)

Gwenhwyfer apparently a duplication with Gwenhwyfer below @2@

m. Thomas ap Robin

(2)

Morfydd

m. Rhys ap Gwilliam, of Llochwedd Issa

(3)

Margaret

m. Gruffydd ap Ieuan, of Caelan

(4)

Angharad

Ieuan of Ystumcegid, Constable of Criccieth (d 1403)

The following is supported by Griffith's Pedigrees (Ystumcegid (p232) & Rhiwaedog (p234) & Wern+Peniarth (p343) & Clenenney (218)) although Griffith (p232) shows Robert of Gwydir as Ieuan's son rather than elder brother.

m. Lleuci or Lleuki (dau of Hywel Sele, Lord of Nannau)

(1)

Maredudd (Meredydd) of Ystumcegid (a 1441)

m. Margaret (dau/coheir of Einion ap Ithel, of Rhiwaedog)

(A)

John of Ystumcegid & Rhiwaedog (a 1462)

m. Gwenhwyfar (dau of Goronwy ap Ieuan ap Einion of Gwynfryn)

(i)

Morris of Rhiwaedog, Clenenney (Cleneu) & Park (a 1523)

m. Angharad (dau of Ellis ap Gruffyd ab Einion ap Cynfrig ab Osborn Wyddel)

(a)

William Lloyd of Rhiwaedog (a 1511)

m. Ellen (dau of David ap Maredudd ap Hywel ap Tudor of Bala)

(b)

Eliza (Ellis) Morris or Maurice of Clenenney (b 1493, d 1571)

m1. Jonet Bowen (dau of Sir James Bowen of Pentre Evan)

m2. Catherine Stanley (dau of Piers Stanley of Ewloe Castle)

(c)

Robert of Park (a 1544)

m. Lowry (dau of Lewis ap Ifan ap Dafydd, of Pengwern)

(d)

Margaret

p/m1. Maredudd ab Ieuan ap Robert of Gwydir (d 1525) @1@ above

m2. (1526) Sir Rhys Griffith of Penrhyn (d 1580)

(e)

Ellen

m. John Wynn ap Maredudd, Sheriff of Caernarvonshire (d 1559)

(f)

Gwen

m1. David ap William ap Griffith of Cochwillan

m2. Hugh ab Owen ap Meyrick of Bodeon

(g)+

other issue - Ann, Lowry

(ii)

Owen of Ystumcegid (a 1485)

m1. Elin (dau of Hugh Lewis of Presaddfed)

m2. Jonet (dau of Howel ap Rhys)

(a)

Robert (dsp)

(b)

Elizabeth

m1. John Prytherch of Tregayan

m2. William ap Howel Vychan, of Brom y foel

(iii)

Evan (Ieuan) of Brynkir (a 1525)

m1/2. Jonet (dau of Rhys ap Llweleyn ap Hwlkin, of Bodychen)

m2/1. Margaret (dau of Meredydd ap Evan, of Gwydir)

(iv)

Robert (dvp)

(v)

Gruffydd of Isallt

m. Elizabeth (dau of William Gryffith Vychan of Penthyn, Chamberlain of North Wales)

(vi)

Catherine

m1. Griffith ap Llewelyn ap Hwlkin

m2. Grono ap David Vychan, of Tyndaethdwy

(vii)

Elin

m. Howel Vaughan of Llwydiarth

(viii)

Mary

m. Robert Ireland of Westrea

(ix)

Annes

m. John Griffith ap David, of Cefnamwich

(x)

Lowry

m. Howel ap Madog, of Pennarth

(B)

Robert (Abbot of Bardsey)

(2)

John

(A)

Lowry

(3)

Gwenhwyfer apparently a duplication with Gwenhwyfer above @2@

m. Thomas ap Robin, of Cochwillan (d 1466)

Main sources: BP1934 (Williams-Wynn), BLG1999 (Jones-Lloyd, formerly of Moelygarnedd and Plasyndre) with input & support as reported above
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