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'ZZmisc03'
Index
links to: Lead / Letter
Families covered:
Late Earls of Mercia, Taillebois of Kendal [These families
are still being researched.]
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There are many different offerings for the ancestry of Aelfgar, Earl of Mercia, whose daughters, confirmed and alleged, appear in many ancestries. The following pulls together the position as we see it but is not completely secure. We find that many online genealogical databases show dates that are simply not acceptable and this, along with a failure to identify sources, weakens faith in them. |
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| Leofric | |||||||||||||||
| 1. | Edulph | ||||||||||||||
| m. Elfwine (dau of Ethelred, Ealderman of Mercia) | |||||||||||||||
| A. | Leofwine | ||||||||||||||
| m. Alwara (dau of Athelstan Mannesson) | |||||||||||||||
| i. | Leofric, Earl of Mercia (d 31.08.1057) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Godgifu, 'Lady Godiva' (d 1067, sister of Thorold, Sheriff of Lincoln) | |||||||||||||||
| a. | Aelfgar (Algar), Earl of Mercia (d 1059) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Aelfgifu | |||||||||||||||
| Some web sites indicate that Aelgifu was daughter of Ethelred 'the Unready', King of England. That is unlikely mainly because that is not mentioned in any of the 'reliable' sources (the Aelgifu/Elgiva who was King Ethelred's daughter is reported as having married only once, to Uchtred, Earl of Bernicia) whilst the dates indicate that Princess Aelgifu was a generation earlier than Aelfgar (Uchtred died in 1016). | |||||||||||||||
| (1) | Edwin | ||||||||||||||
| (2) | Mocar | ||||||||||||||
| (3) | Ealdgyth (d after 1070) |
HJY |
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| m1. Gruffydd, Prince of Deheubarth (d 1063) |
HJY |
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| m2. (c1064) Harold II, King of England (b c1022, d Battle 14.10.1066) | |||||||||||||||
| Many web sites report the widely-held view that another daughter of Earl Aelfgar was Lucy who married (1) Ivo Taillebois (2) Roger FitzGerold (3) Ranulph de Meschines, 1st Earl of Chester. Whilst it appears that the matter is by no means clear, we show her as daughter of Thorold (Turold) of Bucknell, Sheriff of Lincolnshire, by a daughter of William de Malet. | |||||||||||||||
| Collins (1741, vol 3, Temple, Viscount Cobham) reports the following brothers of Earl Algar. | |||||||||||||||
| b. | Montgomery | ||||||||||||||
| c. | William de Temple (a 1066) | ||||||||||||||
| ii. | Edwin of Mercia (d 1039) | ||||||||||||||
| a. | Ealdgyth |
EGHJRSWY |
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| m1. Edmund II 'Ironside', King of England (d 1016) |
EGHJRSWY |
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| m2. (?) Outred or Uchtred of Atiscross |
HJY |
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The
following connections are shown here for the moment (at least) whilst
Ivo Taillebois is investigated further. His ancestry appears to be one
of the most inconsistently reported on the Internet. Not helped by the
confusion over the identity of his wife Lucy, as mentioned just above,
he is variously described as: |
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| Ivo
(de) Taillebois, Sheriff of Lincoln, lord of Kendal (b c1020, d c1094) |
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| Ivo was progenitor of many families. However, not only is there uncertainty as to his ancestry, as reported just above, but it is by no means clear that his marriages have been fully confirmed. http://users.ox.ac.uk/~prosop/prosopon/issue2-2.pdf (which was kindly brought to our attention by a site visitor, TG, 07.01.05) identifies only Beatrix as offspring of the marriage to Lucy and draws attention to the fact that Lucy's inheritance passed to her sons by her second & third marriages and not to any son by her (first) marriage to Ivo. | |||||||||||||||
| m1. Gundred | |||||||||||||||
| 1. | Aelfred de Tailbois 'the Englishman' (b c1045) |
GHJSY |
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| Some sources suggest that Aelfred was the same person as Eldred of Workington, lord of Kendal. | |||||||||||||||
| 2. | Matilda Taillebois possibly dau of Ivo, if so then probably of this marriage | GHJSY |
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| m. Hugh de Beauchamp (a 1066) | GHJSY |
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| m2. Lucy (dau of either Algar, Earl of Mercia, or Thorold, Sheriff of Lincoln) | |||||||||||||||
| 3. | Beatrix de Taillebois |
Y |
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| m1. Ethelred | |||||||||||||||
| Some sources suggest that Ethelred was the same person as Eldred of Workington, lord of Kendal. | |||||||||||||||
| m2. Ribald of Middleham |
Y |
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Main sources: various
web sites
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