'Herne1'Index
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Families covered:
Herne of Hampstead, Herne of London
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| The inconsistencies between Visitation and Commoners/BLG1886 were at first thought to indicate that they covered different families. However, 'The Rulers of London', identified below, clearly identifies Sir Nathaniel as a son of Nicholas by Susan Ironside. We provisionally show the following as being one family BUT note that this may have to be revised in due course. Visitation starts with ... | |||||||||||||||
| Nicholas Herne of Tibenham, Norfolk | |||||||||||||||
| 1. | Richard Herne of London, Sheriff of London (d 24.02.1624) | ||||||||||||||
| Commoners/BLG1886 start with Richard (Sheriff of London in 1618), describing him as "of an ancient family in the city of London". Visitation identifies him only as an Alderman of London but has been known in other accounts not to refer to a sheriffdom. Visitation mentions just one marriage, to Alice Paske (mother of Nicholas, John & Richard). Commoners does not name his wife but BLG1886 identifies her as Susanna Woodward (mother of Nicholas). We presume to show that Richard married twice and provisionally follow Visitation in identifying Alice as mother of Nicholas.. | |||||||||||||||
| m1/2. Alice Paske (dau of John Paske of Cambridge) | |||||||||||||||
| A. | Nicholas Herne of London | ||||||||||||||
| Commoners/BLG1886 do not name either of Nicholas's wives and reports only that he had two sons, Basil and Sir Nathaniel. Visitation identifies his 1st wife as ... | |||||||||||||||
| m1. Elizabeth Hooker (dau of Nicholas Hooker of London) | |||||||||||||||
| i.+ | issue (a 1634) - Richard (b c1615), Nicholas, John, Robert, Elizabeth, Alice, Anne | ||||||||||||||
| Visitation identifies Nicholas's 2nd wife as Sarah, dau of Richard Ironsid of London (sic). 'The Rulers of London 1660-1689: A biographical record of the Aldermen and Common Councilment of the City of London' (Hackshaw-Hyatt, 1966, on www.british-history.ac.uk) identifies her as ... | |||||||||||||||
| m2. Susan Ironside (dau of Richard Ironside of London by Margaret Brook) | |||||||||||||||
| Visitation ends with the next generation, naming Nicholas's children by Sarah/Susan as Nathaniell, Samuell & James. 'The Rulers of London' provides more information on Nathaniel and also identifies Joseph as a son of this marriage. | |||||||||||||||
| viii. | Basil Herne of Hampstead (d 04.01.1692) mentioned by Commoners & BLG1886, not by Visitation | ||||||||||||||
| m. Dorothy Wilbraham (dau of Hugh Wilbraham of Woodhey by Frances, dau of Sir Hugh Cholmondeley of Cholmondeley) | |||||||||||||||
| a. | Basil Herne (d 1728, clerk in the Court of Chancery) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Susanna | |||||||||||||||
| (1) | Basil Herne of Hampstead (d 1774) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (1737) Sophia Barbar (dau of Louis Barbar of Piccadilly) | |||||||||||||||
| (A) | Basil Herne of Hampstead (d unm 1806) | ||||||||||||||
| (B) | Lewis Herne (dsp) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Honor Ashton (dau of Thomas Ashton) | |||||||||||||||
| (C) | Sir William Herne of Maidenhead, Sheriff of London (b 05.12.1745, dsp 1854) | ||||||||||||||
| m1. Sophia Hillebrant (d 1814) | |||||||||||||||
| m2. Mary Frances (widow of George Stevenson of Binfield Place) | |||||||||||||||
| (D) | Susannah Herne (b 1743) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (1762) John Blount Burchell (son of Matthew of Hunton, Kent) | |||||||||||||||
| (i) | Basil Burchell of Bushey Grange, Hertfordshire (b 1764, d 1838) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (24.09.1793) Sarah Harper (dau of Lt. Col. Humphrey Harper) | |||||||||||||||
| (a) | Humphrey Harper Burchell, later Burchell-Herne of Bushey Grange, Sheriff of Hertfordshire (d 1868) had issue | ||||||||||||||
| m. (01.06.1837) Harriet Miles (dau of Richard Miles of Kensington) | |||||||||||||||
| (b) | Basil Herne Burchell (Lt. Colonel) | ||||||||||||||
| (ii) | Frederick Burchell | ||||||||||||||
| (E)+ | 2 sons (dsp) | ||||||||||||||
| (2)+ | other issue (dsp) - Elizabeth, Dorothy | ||||||||||||||
| b.+ | 4 daughters | ||||||||||||||
| ix. | Sir Nathaniel Herne, Sheriff of London (b 1630, d 10.08.1679) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (1656) Judith Frederick (dau of Sir John Frederick, Lord Mayor of London) | |||||||||||||||
| a. | Frederick Herne of London | ||||||||||||||
| m. _ Lile of Northamptonshire mentioned by TCP (Jersey) | |||||||||||||||
| (1) | Judith Herne (d 22.07.1735, "only da. and h.") | ||||||||||||||
| m. (22.03.1704/5) William Villiers, 2nd Earl of Jersey (d 13.07.1721) | |||||||||||||||
b.+ |
other issue | ||||||||||||||
| x. | Sir Joseph Herne, Sheriff of London (b 17.04.1639, d 26.02.1698/9) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (1672) Elizabeth Frederick (dau of Sir John Frederick, Lord Mayor of London) | |||||||||||||||
| 'The Rulers of London' identifies Sir Joseph (son of Nicholas by Susan Ironside) as father of Elizabeth. It is a presumption that this was the Sir Joseph who, according to VCH (Middlesex, London Environs vol 3, West Twyford), in 1698 acquired the manor of Twyford and whose eldest son was ... | |||||||||||||||
| a. | Sir Joseph Herne of Twyford, Hertfordshire | ||||||||||||||
| m. Penelope Mordaunt (dau of Sir John Mordaunt, 5th Bart) | |||||||||||||||
| (1) | Penelope Herne (d 10.12.1760) | ||||||||||||||
| m. John Cholmeley of Easton (d 07.01.1768) | |||||||||||||||
| b. | Elizabeth Herne (b 24.05.1678, d 12.10.1729) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Sir Lambert Blackwell, 1st Bart of Sprowston (d 27.10.1727) | |||||||||||||||
| x. | Sarah Herne name found on a web site | ||||||||||||||
| m. Joseph Hall of London | |||||||||||||||
| xi.+ | other issue - Samuel, James | ||||||||||||||
| B.+ | other issue - John of Lincolne's Inn, Richard | ||||||||||||||
| m2/1. Susanna Woodward (dau of John Woodward of Hampstead) | |||||||||||||||
Main source(s):
(1) For Blackwell of Mortlake & Sprowston : BEB1841 (Blackwell of Sprowston) , TCB (vol V), with input from the article by W.F.L. Nuttall on Governor John Blackwell in 'The Pennsylvania Magazine of History & Biography' (vol 88, no. 2, April 1964)
(2) For Herne of London : Visitation (London, 1634, Herne), BLG1886 (Burchell-Herne of Bushey Grange) with some support from Commoners (vol II, Herne of Maidenhead)
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