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This page is still being researched. It has NOT yet been launched formally into the Database but is shown here TEMPORARILY (albeit for an uncertain length of time pending further research), partly to record connections that we fear we might otherwise lose sight of and partly in the hope that one or more visitors to the site will contribute information that will enable us to develop our information on the families covered in this page to a standard that would support release of a dedicated page in the Database.
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| This section first uploaded 31.03.06. | |||||||||||||||
| (1) On VZmisc01 we have some members of a branch of the family of Valoines that moved to Scotland. We suspect that there may be a connection between that family and this family but have yet to identify it. (2) Collins (1741, vol 3, Wallop, Viscount Lymington) mentions that this family descended from the following Peter "who was in such Favour with William the Conqueror, that he is mentioned in Domesday Book, to be possessed of twelve Lordships in Essex, in Cambridgeshire one, in Lincolnshire one, in Hertfortshire (sic) seventeen, in Norfolk twenty, and in Suffolk six; in which County his Descendants had their chief Residence, making the Castle of Orford the Head or Capital Seat of their Barony". |
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| Peter de Valoines (a 1086) | |||||||||||||||
| 1. | ?? de Valoines | ||||||||||||||
| A. | ?? de Valoines | ||||||||||||||
| i. | ?? de Valoines | ||||||||||||||
| Uncertain on number of intervening generations. | |||||||||||||||
| a. | ?? de Valoines | ||||||||||||||
| Collins (Wallop) mentions that this line ends with Cicelie and Roese, co-heirs of Robert, with Orford Castle passing into the Ufford family. The following comes from TCP (Thorpe (of Norfolk)) and TCP (Ufford). | |||||||||||||||
| (1) | John de Valoines | ||||||||||||||
| m. Isabel de Creke (dau of Robert de Creke of North Creake and Combs) | |||||||||||||||
| (A) | ?? de Valoines | ||||||||||||||
| (i) | Sir Robert de Valoines of Orford Castle, lord of Walsham (d 1281-2) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Eve (possibly dau of _ Criketot of Ousden, widow of Nicholas Tregoz of Tolleshunt D'Arcy) | |||||||||||||||
| (a) | Rose de Valoines | ||||||||||||||
| m. Edmund de Pakenham | |||||||||||||||
| (b) | Cecily de Valoines (b c1281, d 16.07.1325) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (before 1298) Sir Robert de Ufford, 1st Lord (b 11.06.1279, d by 09.09.1316) | |||||||||||||||
| Connected to the above family in a way not yet known was the following branch which, completely artbitrarily, we show as branching from this generation. | |||||||||||||||
| B. | ?? de Valoines | ||||||||||||||
| i. | ?? de Valoines | ||||||||||||||
| Uncertain on number of intervening generations. | |||||||||||||||
| a. | ?? de Valoines | ||||||||||||||
| (1) | Sir William Valoynes of Farley (a temp King Henry III who r. 1216-1272) | ||||||||||||||
| (A) | John Valoynes of Farley | ||||||||||||||
| (i) | John Valoynes of Farley | ||||||||||||||
| (a) | Nicholas Valoynes of Farley Mortimer and Clydesden) | ||||||||||||||
| ((1)) | Margaret Valoynes | ||||||||||||||
| m. Thomas Wallop, younger of Wallop (dvp before 1437) | |||||||||||||||
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| This section first uploaded 20.04.06. | |||||||||||||||
| Hugh FitzRalph of Greasley and Ilkeston | |||||||||||||||
| m. Agnes de Gresel (dau of Ralph de Gresel of Greasley and Middle Claydon) | |||||||||||||||
| 1. | Ralph FitzHugh | ||||||||||||||
| m. _ de la Haye (sister of Piers de la Haye of Arlington) | |||||||||||||||
| A. | Hugh FitzRalph, lord of Greseley or Greasley (dsp?) | ||||||||||||||
| B. | Eustache | ||||||||||||||
| m1. Nicholas de Cantilupe of Ilkestone (d before 24.09.1266) | |||||||||||||||
| m2. Sir William de Ros of Ingmanthorpe | |||||||||||||||
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| This section first uploaded 09.12.06. | |||||||||||||||
| Sir Ralph Nevill of Candall (Kendal?) | |||||||||||||||
| m. _Deyvill (dau of _ Deyvill of Condall) | |||||||||||||||
| The Harleian editor provides a note to report that the Visitation omitted 2 generations (Sir Alexander and Sir William, father of Ralph). It is a presumption that the following Sir Humphrey fits around here. | |||||||||||||||
| 1. | Sir Humphrey Nevill of Thornton Bridge possibly fits here | ||||||||||||||
| Sir Humphrey is identified as father of the following Catherine in Visitation (Yorkshire, 1563-4, Fairfax), BE1883 (Fairfax) and Commoners (vol ii, Fairfax of Gilling Castle), the last reporting her second marriage. | |||||||||||||||
| A. | Catherine Nevill | ||||||||||||||
| m1. William Fairfax of Walton (d 1453) | |||||||||||||||
| m2. Sir Richard Percy (brother of Henry, Earl of Northumberland) | |||||||||||||||
| 2. | Sir Alexander Nevill (d before 25.06.1437) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Catherine Eure (dau of Sir Ralph Eure) | |||||||||||||||
| A. | Sir William Nevill of Thornton Bridge | ||||||||||||||
| m. Joan (Jane) Boynton (dau of Christopher Boynton) | |||||||||||||||
| i. | Ralph Nevill of Thornton Bridge | ||||||||||||||
| m. Anne Gaskon (dau of Sir William Gaskon who married dau of Earl of Northumberland) | |||||||||||||||
| a. | Ralph Nevill of Thornton Bridge | ||||||||||||||
| m. Anne Warde (dau of Sir Christopher Warde of Givendale) | |||||||||||||||
| (1) | Katherine Nevill (b 1499) | ||||||||||||||
| m1. (c1515) Sir Walter (not William) Stryckland (b 1497, d 09.01.1528) | |||||||||||||||
| Thanks to a site visitor (TPL, 27.09.07) for reporting that Katherine also married ... | |||||||||||||||
| m2. Henry Burgham (Brougham) of Burgham | |||||||||||||||
m3. ?? Darcy ("of the house of Menell") |
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| (A) | Frances Darcy | ||||||||||||||
| m. Peter Gobard of Picardy (d c1567) below | |||||||||||||||
m4. William Knyvett |
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| (2) | Jone Nevill (b 1500, d after 1551) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Sir John Counstable of Holdernes (d 04.05.1542) | |||||||||||||||
| (3) | Clare Nevill (b 1507) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Sir Thomas Nevell of Holt (d 1569) | |||||||||||||||
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| This section first uploaded 28.09.07. | |||||||||||||||
| Peter Gobard of Picardy (d c1567) | |||||||||||||||
| Visitation reports that Peter's ancestors "were men of great comaund (sic), and possessions in that countrie (France), cam into England in the tyme of H.8 and was servant to the said King, lived in the City of Londo' and died in anno 1567 or thereabout". | |||||||||||||||
| m1. ?? | |||||||||||||||
| 1.+ | "divers children" (dsp) | ||||||||||||||
| m2. Frances Darcy (dau of ?? Darcy by Katherine Nevill) above | |||||||||||||||
| 2. | John Gobard or Gobart of Coventry (a 1620) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Lucy Smith (dau of Erasmus Smith of (family of) Witcot) | |||||||||||||||
| A. | Frances Gobard | ||||||||||||||
| m. Thomas Barrington (son of Sir Francis, Bart) | |||||||||||||||
| B. | Anna Gobard | ||||||||||||||
| m. Thomas Leigh (son of Urian of Adlington) | |||||||||||||||
| C. | Lucy Gobard | ||||||||||||||
| m. Calcot Chabrie of Williamscot | |||||||||||||||
Main source(s):
(1) For Valoines/Valoynes : Collins (1741, vol 3, Wallop, Viscount Lymington) plus input as reported above
(2) For FitzRalph of Greasley : TCP (Cauntelo)
(3) For Nevill of Thornton Bridge : Visitation (Yorkshire, 1563-4, Nevill (section V))
(4) For Gobard : Visitation (Warwickshire, 1619, Gobard)
[Information on Tancred/Tankard of Whixley was transferred to Tancred1 on 26.05.06.]
[Information on Belknap
was transferred to BZmisc13 on 16.07.07.]
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