One of the great things about Genealogy is that it has been a popular hobby/pursuit for many years. A lot of information is accessible and available to the Public. Reported below are the main sources that have been used to pull together the genealogical data reported in the FAMILIES DATABASE. Other sources used for particular families are identified on the relevant Family List page. Our aim is to identify our sources sufficiently well so that, should you obtain copies of those same sources, you could reproduce the relevant page to be substantially the same as what we show - normally exactly the same, possibly apart from the odd date or other detail found elsewhere and perhaps the occasional difference in interpretation or reliance between different sources. We try to be consistent in the way we identify sources. However, as some pages
are made up of data taken from several different sources, it is not always easy
to do so without cluttering the page. We therefore compromise which means that,
if there are clues to help you find the source of some data, we may not spell
it out on the page. If you wish to check our data, we suggest you adopt the
following approach: |
Don't forget that we have placed a signficant caveat (in bold) on Introduction to the Database. We KNOW that some of the sources we have used are not fully reliable. From this we accept that some of the data in our database are likely to be wrong. However, if we were not to include a datum unless it had been professionally verified we would never be able to develop this type of database - nor would anyone else. Be assured that, subject to the constraints of our available resources (which are limited), we are doing the best we can to ensure the validity of the information we show. Please also remember that we are steadily improving the database and are gradually receiving more & more support from a wide range of people who are working (informally) with us to reduce the number of errors & inconsistencies given in our sources. Some of these errors & inconsistencies have been around for centuries, and many are still being propagated today, so even with the help of others it will take time for us to identify & correct them.
Should you find information in our database that you 'know' is incorrect, please advise us of your suggested corrections by e-mail, giving your reasons for why you disagree with what we have shown and quoting your sources. We are always open to suggestions on how we may improve the reliability of the database. For some families in particular we actively seek assistance - see Can You Help ?.
So,
how reliable are our data ? See our response to this question on Occasionally
Asked Questions.
How do we rank our sources ? This too is answered on our OAQ page.
Click here for a page on
some of the most famous traps/howlers/challenges that haunt many genealogical
databases.
ITEMS BELOW
Note on the initial development of the Database
Main
sources
Acknowledgements including some links to other web sites with useful genealogical
information
Key to abbreviated references used in the Family Lists
NOTE ON THE INITIAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE DATABASE
The
initial core of the database was developed from family records
on certain branches of Graham, Meldrum, Carstairs, and associated families.
These came as notes in my Grandmother's old scrapbooks or as handwritten schedules
and notebooks, some quite old. Without that start, and some preparatory work
by my father, it would have effectively been impossible to track connections
to many families and so the idea of developing the database would never have
arisen.
One
notebook was found to be a copy of schedules (an original of which was later
found in a Library in Edinburgh) that had been prepared by James Balderston
in 1832 to track the relationship between my great-great-grandfather Patrick
Graham of Robshill and his wife Janet Pollok who had been married the year before.
[It turned out that they were 3rd cousins once removed. Click
here to see that relationship and some of the other relationships found.]
James, a baker in Glasgow, had been asked
to look into the matter by his cousin Jean Pollok (nee Coats, mother
of the bride). One can imagine him tracking around East Kilbride, Glasgow and
the surrounding area in Central Scotland, talking to distant cousins and digging
out family bibles into which names had been entered. He pulled together a significant
database that showed all the then-known descendants of Patrick Graham, 1st of
Lymekilns (1658-c1720), and his wife Margaret Lindsay (1663-1733) who were the
common ancestors of Patrick Graham of Robshill and Janet Pollok. Looking through
his database, seeing how people of different ambitions and lifestyles were in
fact quite closely related even though they probably did not know it, made me
realise how quickly genes spread around a community and how inter-connected
we all are. This was the inspiration behind my expanding this database beyond
the limits of my own ancestors and close relations.
Peter Barns-Graham
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'The
Scots Peerage', founded on Wood's Edition of Sir Robert Douglas's 'Peerage
of Scotland'. Edited by Sir James Balfour Paul. Published 1908. |
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We also turned to those stalwarts of genealogical data, Burke's Landed Gentry and Burke's Peerage. The main editions used were: |
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'Burke's Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Landed Gentry', both the 7th Edition (by Sir Bernard Burke in 1886) and the 17th Edition (published by Burke's Peerage Ltd in 1952). |
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'A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage and Baronetage' by Sir Bernard Burke, originally just the 92nd edition (published by Burke's Peerage Ltd in 1934) but later also the 32nd edition (published in 1870). |
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Most of the larger public libraries in the UK have copies of at least some editions of these. For some families the early editions provide more detail on certain generations than the later editions (because the information on those generations is scaled down to provide more room for later ones); for other families it is the other way round (showing the fruits of additional research). Remember that, probably with some exceptions, most of the information shown in these books was obtained by the editor/publisher from the families involved and so is variable in its reliability. Families placed entries into some editions but not others. Families also 'died out' which sometimes makes the early editions (particularly of Burke's Landed Gentry) the only places where one can track them with any ease. You can buy copies of the latest editions through www.burkes-peerage.net or look at them online through that site for an annual subscription fee. |
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Also greatly used have been the following: |
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- for many Noble British families |
'Genealogical
History of the Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages of the British
Empire by Burke' (1883 edition). |
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- for many Noble British families |
'The Complete
Peerage' (or 'A History of the House of Lords and all its Members from the
Earliest Times'); based on work by George Edward Cokayne (Clarenceux King
of Arms, died 1911) and published in 12 volumes from 1910 to 1959 (volume
XII in two parts) by The St. Catherine Press; each volume was edited by
one or more of Vicary Gibbs, HA Doubleday, Lord Howard de Walton, Geoffrey
H. White and R.S. Lea; volume XIII was added in 1940 for new creations from
1901 to 1938; a volume XIV was created in 1998 for "addenda and corrigenda". |
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- for many Noble English families |
'The Peerage
of England' by Arthur Collins (2nd edition, 1741), in 4 volumes, covering
all titles extant at that time. An extended and updated edition by Sir Egerton
Brydges was released in 1812. |
- for many well established British families |
'Extinct
and Dormant Baronetcies' by Burke, using the 2nd edition either in its 1841
version or its 1844 version. |
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- for many well established British families |
'The Complete
Baronetage', edited by G.E. Cokayne. |
- for many established English families |
The Visitations
of the Heralds. |
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- for many established British families |
Burke's
'History of the Commoners', in 4 volumes (vols i & ii published in 1836,
vols iii & iv in 1838). |
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- for a number of Northern England families |
'Familiae Minorum Gentium', a collection of genealogical papers produced by Rev. Joseph Hunter (1788-1861) on families mainly but not exclusively from Yorkshire, Derbyshire, Cheshire and Lancashire. |
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- for many established Irish families |
Burke's
Irish Family Records (1976) |
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- for early Royal and Noble Houses of Continental Europe |
'Royal Genealogies.
The genealogical tales of emperors, kings and princes from Adam to these
times.' by James Anderson, 1736. |
- for Royal and Noble Houses of Continental Europe |
'Genealogy.EU'.
This is a fantastic web site for all genealogists who have found a connection
to a European royal or noble house. |
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The following have been particularly useful for families of particular regions of the British Isles: |
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- for many different parishes in England |
A wide-ranging site which includes, amongst other things, many of the publications produced by 'Victoria County History', an encyclopaedic record of many parts of England, started in 1899 and continuing today. |
- for families in Ayrshire, Scotland |
'History of the County of Ayr with a Genealogical Account of the Families of Ayrshire' by James Paterson (volume 1 in 1847, volume 2 in 1852). |
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- for families in Fife, Scotland |
'Fife: Pictorial and Historical. Its People, Burghs, Castles, and Mansions'
by A.H. Millar (printed and published in 2 volumes in 1895 by A. Westwood &
Son, Cupar). |
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- for families in Renfrewshire, Scotland |
"A
General Description of the Shire of Renfrew .... (and) a Genealogical History
of the Royal House of Stewart" by George Crawfurd (published in 1710) "and
Continued to the Present Period" by George Robertson, published in Paisley,
1818. |
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- for families in Wales |
"Welsh Biography Online" produced by The National Library of Wales which reports various publications by the Honourable Society of Cymmrodorion. |
ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS including some links to other web sites with useful genealogical information
In my book, "Familial But Unfamiliar
Roots", I thank various members of my (extended) family, and a few others,
for their help and co-operation in lending me books, keeping me advised of changes
to their own families, etc.. I thank them again but spare them from being named
here. I want here to acknowledge the work of other people whom I do not know,
and will probably never meet, but who have inspired me to take to the Internet
to share with others the information I/we have found. In some cases, their sites
have given us leads which we had not found elsewhere (where this happens, this
is recorded on the relevant Family List).
PCBG,
June 2002.
| SITES THAT SHOW HOW AN 'ORDINARY' FAMILY'S ANCESTORS CAN HELP YOU REACH INTO HISTORY | ||
| www.american-pictures.com/genealogy/genealog.htm | ** 'HOLDT' or 'Holdt'- for the interesting family tree prepared by Jacob Holdt. For it to be of any use for research you need first to identify a common ancestor (and bookmark the relevant page) but thereafter it can help you find many ancestral descents not easily found elsewhere. We have used it only for some pages in the 'Ancient & Mythical' section. | |
| www.mathematical.com |
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'MATHS' or 'Mathematical' - for an impressive site by Charles Dean Druit
in which his family tree is only one of several interests shown (and is
rather hidden at present). For access to the genealogical data it is best
to use our link to the master index, which is still being developed, and
bookmark any relevant pages. The database provides some connections not
found elsewhere and is not always reliable (Ancestry.com appears
to be one of its main sources) but it is no different from many other databases
in that respect and is better than most. This site appears to have gone offline. We are presently considering how best to amend the various references to it that we have made in the Database. |
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| SITES THAT SHOW HOW PROFESSIONAL SOME 'AMATEURS' CAN BE | ||
| www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk | ** 'MEDGEN' or 'MedieGen' - in a world where, increasingly, people call themselves 'expert' just because they managed to pass a trivial course, it is refreshing to come across a site by a self-professed 'amateur' that is so professional in its approach and makes so much knowledge and expertise accessible to many. It even provides some corrections and additions to 'The Complete Peerage'. The existence of this site makes it unnecessary for us to do many things that we were considering for the future. Thanks and congratulations to Chris Phillips for a most interesting site that must have taken years to develop. |
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| www.tudorplace.com.ar | ** 'TUDOR' or 'Tudor' - for an excellent well-presented site with a large and most useful database that needs only more information on its sources to make it truly formidabale. Although the number of incomplete links can be disappointing, this may simply be a sign that the site is still under development. Congratulations to Jorge Castelli for his excellent work. | |
| AND WE CAN'T FORGET ... | ||
| www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/public/genealogy/GEDCOM.html | ** 'RODATA' or 'RoyalData' (Royal and Noble Genealogical Data on the Web) - for a huge database that is well-known and well-respected by many genealogists. The site also contains several links to other sites of interest. Congratulations to Brian Tompsett and his team at the Department of Computer Science at the University of Hull. | |
| AND THINK IT RIGHT TO MENTION ... | ||
| www.familysearch.org | ** 'IGI' - the International Genealogy Index prepared by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints ('the Mormons'). We do not ourselves use this enormous database as one of our standard sources as, fairly or not, we have received the impression that it can be overly presumptuous with its identifications, particularly of people in Renaissance and earlier periods. However, we sometimes receive suggestions and comments from our site's visitors that refer to the IGI and which we think foolish to ignore. Except when it is just one of 'various web sites' used to source data, done only rarely, we make it clear in our site where any data is sourced from the IGI. |
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| www.ancestry.com | ** 'Ancestry.com' - a most interesting facility to share research & data online. We don't use it as a standard source ourselves as it only rarely identifies its sources and we have obtained the impression that many of its contributors have not given due care to checking their data. However, it is often one of the 'various web sites' we have seen providing data on a family which we can't cover using one of our standard sources. | |
We also wish to acknowledge the most valuable help and assistance we have received from many visitors to this site who have contributed corrections & suggestions that have enabled us to steadily improve the scope, accuracy & reliability of the database. Our Thank You page identifies many of those who have helped most.
KEY to abbreviated references used in the Family Lists
Throughout the Family Lists
are reported the sources used for the relevant families and also acknowledge
other relevant input. The following have been used (or may be referred to) many times and so, to save
time, have been given abbreviations or shortened descriptions as identified
below.
BE1883 |
Burke's Extinct Peerage |
See under Main Sources above. |
BEB**** |
Burke's Extinct and Dormant Baronetcies |
See under Main Sources above. |
BLG**** |
Burke's Landed Gentry |
See under Main Sources above. |
BLGI**** |
Burke's Landed Gentry (Ireland) |
See under Main Sources above. |
BP**** |
Burke's Peerage and Baronetage |
See under Main Sources above. |
Collins |
Collins's Peerage of England |
See under Main Sources above. |
Commoners |
Burke's History of the Commoners |
See under Main Sources above. |
BIFR**** |
Burke's Irish Family Records |
See under Main Sources above. |
Crawfurd (Ren) |
Crawfurd's Renfrewshire |
See under Main Sources above. |
Fife P&H |
Fife: Pictorial & Historical |
See under Main Sources above. |
FMG |
Familiae Minorum Gentium |
See under Main Sources above. |
GENEU or GenEU |
'Genealogy.EU' |
See under Main Sources above. |
HOLDT |
'Holdt' |
See under Acknowledgements above. |
IGI |
International Genealogy Index |
See under Acknowledgements above. |
MATHS |
'Mathematical' |
See under Acknowledgements above. |
MEDGEN |
'MedieGen' |
See under Acknowledgements above. |
Paterson (Ayr) |
Paterson's Ayr |
See under Main Sources above. |
RODATA |
'RoyalData' |
See under Acknowledgements above. |
ROYL |
'Royal Genealogies' |
See under Main Sources above. |
TCB |
'The Complete Baronetage' |
See under Main Sources above. |
TCP |
'The Complete Peerage' |
See under Main Sources above. |
TSP |
'The Scots Peerage' |
See under Main Sources above. |
TUDOR |
'Tudor' |
See under Acknowledgements above. |
VCH |
'Victoria County History' |
See under Main Sources above. |
Visitation |
'Visitation' |
See under Main Sources above. |
WBO |
'Welsh Biography Online' |
See under Main Sources above. |
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Other types of abbreviations used in the site are explained on the Occasionally Asked Questions page.