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Families covered: Fiennes of Claveringham, Fiennes of Dacre, Fiennes of Hurstmonceaux, Fiennes of Saye & Sele
Sir William Fiennes (b 02.02.1331/2, d 30.11.1359) | |||||||||||||||
m. (12.11.1351) Joan de Saye (dau of Geoffrey de Saye, 2nd Lord, sister/coheir of Lord William) | |||||||||||||||
1. | Sir William Fiennes of Hurstmonceaux, Sheriff of Surrey & Sussex (b 01.08.1357, d 18.01.1402/3) | ||||||||||||||
m. Elizabeth Battisford (dau/heir of William Battisford or Batisford or Batesford of Sussex by Margery, heir of Simon Peplesham) | |||||||||||||||
A. | Sir Roger Fiennes (bpt 14.09.1384, d before 18.11.1449) this line followed by Collins (Brydges, vol 6), supported by TCP (Dacre (of Gilsland and of the South)) | ||||||||||||||
m. (13.08.1409) Elizabeth Holland (dau of John Holland, sister of Sir John of Northamptonshire) | |||||||||||||||
i. | Richard Fiennes of Hurstmonceaux, 1st/7th Lord Dacre 'of the South' (d 1484, Constable of the Tower of London) | ||||||||||||||
m. Joane Dacre, Baroness Dacre (d 1486, dau of Thomas Dacre, younger of Dacre) | |||||||||||||||
a. | Sir John Fiennes (b 1447, d 1483) wrongly named Thomas by Collins | ||||||||||||||
The following is supported by BP1934 ('Hampden'). | |||||||||||||||
m. (19.11.1466) Alice FitzHugh (dau of Henry FitzHugh, 6th Lord) | |||||||||||||||
(1) | Thomas Fiennes, 2nd/8th Lord Dacre 'of the South' (b 1471/2, d 09.09.1534) | ||||||||||||||
m. (1492) Anne Bourchier (a 09.1530, dau of Sir Humphrey Bourchier) | |||||||||||||||
(A) | Sir Thomas Fiennes (b 1495, dvp 26.10.1528) | ||||||||||||||
m. (1514) Jane Sutton (dau of Edward Sutton, 2nd Lord Dudley) | |||||||||||||||
(i) | Thomas Fiennes, 3rd/9th Lord Dacre 'of the South' (b 1516, d 29.06.1541) | ||||||||||||||
m. Mary Neville (dau of George Nevill, 5th Lord Abergavenny, by Mary Stafford) | |||||||||||||||
(a) | Thomas Fiennes (b c1538, dsp 25.08.1535) | ||||||||||||||
(b) | George (Gregory) Fiennes, 4th/10th Lord Dacre 'of the South' (dspl 25.09.1594) | ||||||||||||||
m. Anne Sackville (d 14.05.1595, dau of Sir Richard Sackville of Buckhurst, sister of Thomas, Lord Buckhurst) | |||||||||||||||
(c) | Margaret Fiennes, Baroness Dacre (b 1541, d 16.03.1611) | ||||||||||||||
m. Samson Lennard of Chevening, Sheriff of Kent (d 20.09.1615) | |||||||||||||||
Their eldest son became (12th) Lord Dacre. | |||||||||||||||
(B) | Mary Fiennes (d 1533) probably of this generation | ||||||||||||||
m. Sir Henry Norreys (d 14.05.1536) | |||||||||||||||
(2) | Anne Fiennes (d 10.09.1497) apparently of this generation | ||||||||||||||
m1. William Berkeley, Marquess of Berkeley (b 1426, dsp 14.02.1491-2) | |||||||||||||||
m2. Sir Thomas Brandon (KG) | |||||||||||||||
b. | Sir Thomas Fiennes or Fynes of Claveringham, Sussex (d 1526) | ||||||||||||||
Sir Thomas is shown as of this generation in CountyGen (Sussex, Berry, p331) which provides the following. Berry spells the family name "Fynes". | |||||||||||||||
m. Anne Ursewick | |||||||||||||||
(1) | Giles Fiennes of Claveringham | ||||||||||||||
m. Elizabeth Ernley (dau of Judge John Ernley) | |||||||||||||||
(A) | John Fiennes of Claveringham | ||||||||||||||
m. Elizabeth Colepeper (dau of Richard Colepeper of Wakehurst) | |||||||||||||||
(i) | Joane Fiennes | ||||||||||||||
m. Thomas Colepeper | |||||||||||||||
(B) | Thomas Fiennes | ||||||||||||||
m. Elizabeth Tatersall | |||||||||||||||
(i) | Elizabeth Fiennes | ||||||||||||||
m. William Lee | |||||||||||||||
(C) | Edward Fiennes | ||||||||||||||
m. Ann Holden | |||||||||||||||
(i) | John Fiennes of Claveringham | ||||||||||||||
(a) | John Fiennes of Claveringham | ||||||||||||||
(ii) | Ann Fiennes | ||||||||||||||
(D) | Henry Fiennes | ||||||||||||||
(E) | Ann Fiennes | ||||||||||||||
m. William Threele of Boxley | |||||||||||||||
(F) | Mary Fiennes | ||||||||||||||
m. John Leeds of Sussex | |||||||||||||||
(2) | Ann Fiennes | ||||||||||||||
m. Sir Goddard Oxenbridge | |||||||||||||||
(3) | Margaret Fiennes | ||||||||||||||
m. William Lunsford of Sussex (d 1531) | |||||||||||||||
(4) | Elizabeth Fiennes | ||||||||||||||
m. William Paynes of Essex | |||||||||||||||
(5)+ | other issue - Thomas, Jane | ||||||||||||||
c. | Elizabeth Fiennes | ||||||||||||||
m. John Clinton, Lord of Maxstoke (Maxtock) | |||||||||||||||
ii. | Margaret Fiennes (b c1414, d after 1446) possibly of this generation | ||||||||||||||
m. Nicholas Carew | |||||||||||||||
B. | James Fiennes, Sheriff, 1st Lord Saye & Sele (b 1394, d 04.07.1450/1, Treasurer of England) this line followed by Collins (Brydges, vol 7), supported by TCP (Saye and Sele) | ||||||||||||||
m. Emmeline Cromer (b c1426, dau of _ Cromer or Crowmer of Willingham by _ Trillow) | |||||||||||||||
i. | William Fiennes, 2nd Lord Saye & Sele (d Barnet 14.04.1471, Admiral of England) | ||||||||||||||
m. Margaret Wykeham (d 1477, dau/heir of William Wykeham alias Perrott or Parrott of Broughton Castle, m2. John Hervy) | |||||||||||||||
a. | Henry Fiennes, 3rd Lord Saye & Sele (d 01.08.1476) | ||||||||||||||
m. Anne Harcourt (dau of Sir Richard Harcourt) | |||||||||||||||
(1) | Richard Fiennes, 4th Lord Saye & Sele (b 12.04.1471, d 1501) | ||||||||||||||
m. Elizabeth Crofts (d 29.03.1527, dau of Richard Crofts of Chaffing Norton by Anne Fox, m2. William or Richard West) | |||||||||||||||
(A) | Edward Fiennes, de jure 5th Lord Saye & Sele (b c1502, d 1528) | ||||||||||||||
BP1934 (Saye & Sele) reports that Edward did not use the title which was not formally reconfirmed until 1603 when his grandson took up the title again. | |||||||||||||||
m. Margaret Danvers (dau of Sir John Danvers of Dantsay) | |||||||||||||||
(i) | Richard Fiennes of Broughton, de jure 6th Lord Saye & Sele (b 11.09.1521, d 03.08.1579) | ||||||||||||||
m. Ursula Fermour (dau of Richard Fermour of Easton Neston) | |||||||||||||||
(a) | Sir Richard Fiennes of Broughton Castle, 7th Lord Saye & Sele (b c1557, d 1613) | ||||||||||||||
m1. Constance Kingsmill (dau of Sir W. Kingsmill of Sidmanton) | |||||||||||||||
((1)) | William Fiennes, 1st Viscount Saye & Sele (b 28.05.1582, d 11/14.04.1662) | ||||||||||||||
m. Elizabeth Temple (dau of John Temple of Stowe) | |||||||||||||||
((A)) | James Fiennes, 2nd Viscount Saye & Sele (d 15.03.1673-4) | ||||||||||||||
m. Frances Cecil (d 1684, dau of Edward Cecil, Viscount Wimbledon) | |||||||||||||||
((i)) | Elizabeth Fiennes (d 28.03.1674) | ||||||||||||||
m. John Twisleton of Barley (d 14.12.1682) | |||||||||||||||
Their great-great-grandson Thomas successfully claimed the title of Baron Saye & Sele. | |||||||||||||||
((ii)) | Frances Fiennes | ||||||||||||||
m. Andrew Ellis 'of Abry' of Flintshire | |||||||||||||||
((a)) | Cicely Ellis (b 1656-7, dsp 22.07.1715) | ||||||||||||||
m1. (13/15.03.1672-3) Sir Richard Langley (d 08.02.1677-8) | |||||||||||||||
m2. William Fiennes @1@ below | |||||||||||||||
((iii))+ | other issue - James (d infant), William (d infant), William (d young) | ||||||||||||||
((B)) | Nathaniel Fiennes (b c04.1608, d 16.12.1669, Colonel, Speaker of Cromwell's House of Lords) | ||||||||||||||
m1. (11.08.1636) Elizabeth Eliot (dau of Sir John Eliot of Port Eliot) | |||||||||||||||
((i)) | William Fiennes, 3rd Viscount Saye & Sele (b c1641, d 09.12.1698) | ||||||||||||||
m1. (1670) Mary Fiennes (d 23.10.1676, dau of Richard Fiennes) @2@ below | |||||||||||||||
((a)) | Nathaniel Fiennes, 4th Viscount Saye & Sele (b 23.10.1676, d unm 02.01.1709-10) | ||||||||||||||
m2. (07.09.1685) Katharine Walker (dsp, dau of Edward (not John) Walker of Banbury) | |||||||||||||||
Lipscomb identifies Nathaniel's 2nd wife as Frances, dau/coheir of Richard Tudelly of Newton Tony but Collins identifies her as follows, which is supported by FMG (p1139) and the Harrison source. | |||||||||||||||
m2. Frances Whitehead (dau of Richard Whitehead of Siderley) | |||||||||||||||
((ii)) | Mary Fiennes | ||||||||||||||
m. (1684) Sir Edmund Harrison of Laurence Pountney Hill | |||||||||||||||
((iii))+ | other issue (d unm) - Frances, Anne/Elizabeth | ||||||||||||||
((C)) | John Fiennes (d 1722, Colonel) | ||||||||||||||
m. Susannah Hobbs (dau/heir of Thomas Hobbs of Great Anwell) | |||||||||||||||
((i)) | William Fiennes (dsp, 4th son) | ||||||||||||||
m. Cecilia Ellis (d 22.07.1715, granddau of James, 2nd Viscount) @1@ above | |||||||||||||||
((ii)) | Lawrence Fiennes, 5th Viscount Saye & Sele (d unm 27.12.1742) | ||||||||||||||
((iii)) | Susannah Fiennes | ||||||||||||||
m. Thomas Filmer 'of Anwell Bury, Hertfordshire' | |||||||||||||||
((a)) | Mary Filmer (d 1743, coheir) probably of this generation | ||||||||||||||
m. Edward Trotman of Shelswell | |||||||||||||||
((iv)) | Hannah Fiennes | ||||||||||||||
m. John Knight of Broughton | |||||||||||||||
((v))+ | other issue - John (d unm), Thomas (d unm), Henry (d unm), Richard (d young), Elizabeth (d young), Martha (d unm 05.1738) | ||||||||||||||
((D)) | Richard Fiennes of Ixworth, Suffolk | ||||||||||||||
BP1934 reports that Richard's only surviving son, Richard, was by his first wife Margaret. However, Collins & Lipscomb , which identify his other children, show Richard as son of Susanna. That view is supported by BP2003 ('Saye and Sele'). | |||||||||||||||
m1. Margaret Burrell (d 17.04.1669, dau/heir of Andrew Burrell of Wisbech, Isle of Ely) | |||||||||||||||
((i)) | Elizabeth Fiennes | ||||||||||||||
m1. William Danvers of Broughton Castle | |||||||||||||||
m2. John Brawn of Alscot | |||||||||||||||
((ii)) | Mary Fiennes (d 23.10.1676) | ||||||||||||||
m. (1670) William Fiennes, 3rd Viscount Saye & Sele (d 09.12.1698) @2@ above | |||||||||||||||
((iii)) | Anne Fiennes | ||||||||||||||
m. Beaumont Percival of Harding | |||||||||||||||
((iv)) | Alice Fiennes | ||||||||||||||
m1. John Horn of Winchester | |||||||||||||||
m2. Sir John St. Barbe, Bart of Broadlands & Ashington (dsp 07.09.1723) | |||||||||||||||
((v))+ | other issue - Faramus (dsp), William (dsp), Arabella (d unm) | ||||||||||||||
m2. Susanna Cobb (b 1628-9, d 31.03.1712, dau of William Cobb of Adderbury) | |||||||||||||||
((vi)) | Richard Fiennes (d 1722, rector of Akeley or Oakley) | ||||||||||||||
m. (30.10.1705) Penelope Chamberlayne (dau of George Chamberlayne of Wardington) | |||||||||||||||
((a)) | Richard Fiennes, 6th Viscount Saye & Sele (bpt 08.07.1716, dsp 29.07.1781) | ||||||||||||||
m. (13.11.1753) Christobella Tyrrol (d 23.07.1789, dau of Sir Thomas Tyrrol or Tyrrell, 2nd Bart (by Dorothy Eyre), widow of John Knapp of Cumnor then John Pigott of Doddershall) | |||||||||||||||
((b)) | Susanna Fiennes | ||||||||||||||
m. Alexander Gordon of Greenwich | |||||||||||||||
((c)) | Vere Alicia (not Penelope) Fiennes | ||||||||||||||
m. Richard Wykeham of Swalcliffe (d 1751) | |||||||||||||||
((d)) | Elizabeth Fiennes | ||||||||||||||
m. Henry Quartly (rector of Wicken) | |||||||||||||||
((e)) | Cecilia Fiennes | ||||||||||||||
((E)) | Bridget Fiennes | ||||||||||||||
m. Theophilus Clinton, 4th Earl of Lincoln (d 22.05.1667) | |||||||||||||||
((F)) | Constance Fiennes (bur 02.09.1692) | ||||||||||||||
m. (07.03.1637) Sir Francis Boynton, 2nd Bart of Barmston (d 09.09.1695) | |||||||||||||||
((G)) | Susannah Fiennes | ||||||||||||||
m1. Thomas Erle of Charlebury (b c1621, dvp) | |||||||||||||||
m2. Robert Hawley | |||||||||||||||
((H)) | Elizabeth Fiennes | ||||||||||||||
m. Richard Norton of Southwick (d 05.1681) | |||||||||||||||
((I)) | Anne Fiennes | ||||||||||||||
m. (1649) Sir Charles Wolseley, 2nd Bart of Wolseley (d 09.10.1714) | |||||||||||||||
((2)) | Anne Fiennes | ||||||||||||||
m1. Henry Cave of Ingardby | |||||||||||||||
m2. (c1614, sp) Sir William Villiers, Bart (uncle of George, Duke of Buckingham) | |||||||||||||||
((3)) | Ursula Fiennes | ||||||||||||||
m2. (sp) Elizabeth Coddingham (dau of Henry Coddingham (Auditor of the Mint), widow of William Pawlett of Winchester) | |||||||||||||||
(b) | Elizabeth Fiennes (d 1635) | ||||||||||||||
m. William Turpin of Leicestershire | |||||||||||||||
(c) | Ursula Fiennes probably of this generation or one after | ||||||||||||||
m. Sir Edward Marrow of Berkswell or Berkeswell (d 1632) | |||||||||||||||
(ii) | Elizabeth Fiennes (d 1604) | ||||||||||||||
m1. Francis Barentine or Barrantine of Hasely (son/heir of William of Haseley) | |||||||||||||||
m2. Richard Exton | |||||||||||||||
m3. James Hilmot | |||||||||||||||
m4. Thomas Richards of Chiping Norton | |||||||||||||||
(iii) | Diana Fiennes (d young) | ||||||||||||||
(B) | Elizabeth Fiennes | ||||||||||||||
m. (1522) William Danvers of Culworth (d 20.06.1544) | |||||||||||||||
(D) | Ann Fiennes | ||||||||||||||
m. John "Lo. Souch of Haringworth" | |||||||||||||||
(E) | Mary Fiennes (nun) | ||||||||||||||
b. | Elizabeth Fiennes | ||||||||||||||
m. Sir William Griffith of North Wales | |||||||||||||||
c.+ | other issue - John, Richard (d unm) | ||||||||||||||
ii. | Elizabeth Fiennes (a 1459) | ||||||||||||||
m1. (William) Cromer of Tunstall | |||||||||||||||
m2. Alexander Iden of Westwell | |||||||||||||||
m3. Laurence Rainsforth or Raynsford | |||||||||||||||
iii.+ | other issue - Emmeline, Jane | ||||||||||||||
Visitation (Oxfordshire) shows that an unnamed daughter, presumably either Emmeline or Jane, married ... | |||||||||||||||
m. _ Radmell | |||||||||||||||
2. | John Fiennes (d 1378-9) | ||||||||||||||
Main source(s): BP1934 (Saye & Sele), Collins (Brydges, vol VI (1812), 'Brand, Baroness Dacre', p561+), Collins (vol VII (1812), 'Twisleton, Lord Say and Sele', p17+), Lipscomb (Bucks, vol 2, 'Pedigree of Fiennes, Fiendles, or Fines', p470+) with a little input/support from Visitation (Oxfordshire, 1566+1574+1634, 'Fynes of Broughton' & 'Fynes of Broughton, and Blunt of Wigginton') and as reported above
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