'VZmisc01'
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Families covered: Valence of Pembroke, de Valoniis (or Valoines or Valognes),Vanneck of Heveningham Hall, Vanneck of Huntingfield, Vanlore (Van Lore or Vanlour)
| William de Valence, 'Earl of Pembroke' (b after 1225, d before 18.05.1296) | |||||||||||||||
| William's wife's mother was Joan Marshall, daughter of William, Earl of Pembroke. Although William was often referred to as 'Earl of Pembroke', and sometimes also as Earl of Wexford, TCP (Pembroke) reports that he was never actually created an Earl. However, BE1883 does identify him as an Earl. | |||||||||||||||
| m. (13.08.1247) Joan de Munchensy of Swanscombe (dau of Warin de Munchensy of Swanscombe) | |||||||||||||||
| 1. | John de Valence (dspvp 01.1276/7) | ||||||||||||||
| 2. | William de Valence (dvpsp 16.06.1282) | ||||||||||||||
| 3. | Aymer de Valence, Earl of Pembroke (b c1270, dsp 23.06.1324) | ||||||||||||||
| TCP accepts that Aymer was formally regarded as Earl of Pembroke. | |||||||||||||||
| m1. Beatrix de Clermont (dsp before 14.09.1320, dau of Ralph de Clermont, Constable of France) | |||||||||||||||
| m2. (07.1321) Mary de Chatillon (dsp 16/17.03.1377, dau of Guy de Chatillon, Comte de St. Paul) | |||||||||||||||
| 4. | Isabel de Valence (d 03/5.10.1305) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (1275) John Hastings, 1st Lord of Abergavenny (b 06.05.1262, d 10.02.1313) | |||||||||||||||
| 5. | Margaret de Valence (dvp bur 24.03.1275/6) | ||||||||||||||
| 6. | Agnes or Anne de Valence (dsp 02.01.1310) | ||||||||||||||
| m1. Maurice FitzGerald, 3rd Lord of Offaly | |||||||||||||||
| m2. Sir Hugh Baliol of Barnard Castle (b 1240, dsp before 10.01.1271) | |||||||||||||||
| m3. John de Avesnes 'of Beaumont' | |||||||||||||||
| 7. | Joan de Valence | ||||||||||||||
| m. Sir John 'the Red' Comyn, Lord of Badenoch (d 10.02.1306) | |||||||||||||||
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| We hope in due course to determine what connection if any existed between the following family and the Valoines of Orford Castle, etc.. | |||||||||||||||
| Philip de Valoniis | |||||||||||||||
| 1. | ?? de Valoniis | ||||||||||||||
| A. | Philip de Valoniis or Valognes or Valoines of Panmure (a 1180) | ||||||||||||||
| i. | William de Valoniis of Panmure, Chamberlain of Scotland (d 1219) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Lorretta de Quincy (dau of Saier de Quincy, 1st Earl of Winchester) | |||||||||||||||
| a. | Christian de Valoniis | -- | |||||||||||||
| m. (before 1215) Peter de Maule (d 1254) | -- | ||||||||||||||
| b. | Lora de Valoniis | ||||||||||||||
| m. Henry de Baliol, Chamberlain of Scotland | |||||||||||||||
| c. | daughter | ||||||||||||||
| ii. | Sybil de Valoniis | ||||||||||||||
| m. Robert de Stuteville | |||||||||||||||
| B. | Roger de Valoniis of Easter Kilbride | ||||||||||||||
| i. | Isabella de Valoniis | ||||||||||||||
| m. David Comyn of Kilbride (d before 07.08.1247) | |||||||||||||||
| C. | Robert de Valoniis or Valoines of Bennington, etc | ||||||||||||||
| i. | Gunnora de Valoniis | ||||||||||||||
| m. Robert FitzWalter of Woodham Walter (d Damletta 1234) | |||||||||||||||
| Most probably connected to this family in some way not yet identified was a son who gave rise to the family of Torrie. The connection was certainly not through the above William or Roger, whose daughters were their heiresses, and probably not through the above Robert whose daughter's daughter Christian FitzWalter (Countess of Essex) included the above Christian and Lora amongst her heirs. | |||||||||||||||
| D. | ?? de Valoniis | ||||||||||||||
| i. | ?? de Valoniis | ||||||||||||||
| Uncertain on number of intervening generations. | |||||||||||||||
| a. | ?? de Valoniis | ||||||||||||||
| (1) | ?? de Valoniis | ||||||||||||||
| (A) | Sir James de Valoniis of Torrie | ||||||||||||||
| (i) | Christian de Valoniis | -- | |||||||||||||
| m. Andrew Wardlaw, 4th of Wilton, 1st of Torrie (a 1417) | -- | ||||||||||||||
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| Cornelius Vanneck (paymaster of the land forces of the United Provinces) | |||||||||||||||
| 1. | Gerard Vanneck (dsp 1750) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (1736) Mary (relict of Sir Denis Dutry, Bart) | |||||||||||||||
| 2. | Sir Joshua Vanneck of Heveningham Hall, 1st Bart (d 06.03.1777) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (20.02.1731-2) Mary Anne Daubuz (d 01.12.1750, dau of Stephen Daubuz) | |||||||||||||||
| A. | Sir Gerard Vanneck, 2nd Bart (d unm 23.05.1791, MP) | ||||||||||||||
| B. | Joshua Vanneck of Heveningham Hall, 1st Baron Huntingfield (b 31.12.1745, d 15.08.1816, MP) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (29.09.1777) Maria Tompson (d 07.12.1811, dau of Andrew Tompson of Roehampton) | |||||||||||||||
| i. | Joshua Vanneck of Heveningham Hall, 2nd Baron Huntingfield (b 12.08.1778, d 10.08.1844) had issue | ||||||||||||||
| m1. (02.04.1810, spms) (Frances) Catherine Arcedeckne (d 03.08.1815, dau of Chaloner Arcedeckne of Glevering Hall) | |||||||||||||||
| m2. (06.01.1817) Lucy Anne Blois (b 1798-9, d 03.04.1889, dau of Sir Charles Blois, 6th Bart of Cockfield Hall) | |||||||||||||||
| ii. | Gerard Vanneck (b 23.08.1786, d 29.12.1829) had issue | ||||||||||||||
| m. (29.12.1810) Charlotte Lovelace (d 09.04.1875, dau of Robert Lovelace) | |||||||||||||||
| iii. | Tompson Vanneck (b 27.01.1791, d 22.03.1855) had issue | ||||||||||||||
| m. (03.11.1816) Mary Ann Palmer of Halesworth (d 11.1833) | |||||||||||||||
| iv. | Maria Vanneck (b 20.05.1783) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (01.05.1817) Charles Lovelace | |||||||||||||||
| v. | Caroline Vanneck (b 14.06.1788, d 26.05.1836) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (01.05.1817) Alexander Donovan of Framfield Place (d 04.09.1846) | |||||||||||||||
| C. | Elizabeth Vanneck (d 09.06.1760) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (26.05.1750/14.11.1753) Thomas Walpole | |||||||||||||||
| D. | Anna Maria Cornelia Vanneck | ||||||||||||||
| m. (07.03.1752) Henry Uhthoff ('rector of Huntingfield') | |||||||||||||||
| i. | Mary Anne Uhthoff (d 11.03.1826) probably of this generation | ||||||||||||||
| m. (12.12.1816) Thomas Tindal of Aylesbury | |||||||||||||||
| F. | Margaret Vanneck (d 09.05.1818) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (22.11.1757-8) Richard Walpole | |||||||||||||||
| E. | Gertrude Vanneck (d unm 14.03.1798) | ||||||||||||||
| 3.+ | other issue - Abraham (attorney-general for Holland), Lambert of Rotterdam, William (professot at Maestricht), Joacb (burgomaster at the Hague) | ||||||||||||||
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| Sir Peter Van Lore of Utrecht, later of London (b c1547, d 06.09.1627, "a Protestant refugee") | |||||||||||||||
| m. Jacoba | |||||||||||||||
| 1. | Sir Peter Vanlore (Van Lore or Vauloor) of Tylehurst (Berkshire), Bart (b c1580, d c1644/5) | ||||||||||||||
| m1. Susan Becke (dau of Laurence Becke of Antwerp) presumed mother of ... | |||||||||||||||
| A. | Jacoba Vanlore (d 22.06.1677) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Henry Zinzan (alias Alexander?) of Tylehurst | |||||||||||||||
| B. | Susanna Vanlore (b c1625, d 1685) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (29.07.1634) Sir Robert Crooke | |||||||||||||||
| C. | Mary Vanlore | ||||||||||||||
| m. (10.12.1637) Henry Alexander, Earl of Stirling | |||||||||||||||
| m2. Katharine (d by 1663) | |||||||||||||||
Main source(s):
(1) For Valence (uploaded 31.10.03) : TCP (Pembroke), BE1883 (Pembroke), GenEU (Lusignan2)
(2) For de Valoniis (uploaded by 22.12.03) : TSP (Panmure), TSP (Comyn)
(3) For Vanneck (uploaded 04.02.20, reviewed 23.04.20) : BP1934 ('Huntingfield') 'Debrett's Peerage' (UK, vol 2, 1825, 'Vanneck, Baron Huntingfield of Heveningham Hall', p1211+)
(4) For Vanlore (originally shown in a Temporary page on 13.08.15, moved here 17.02.21) : TCB (vol 2, 'Van Lore or Vauloor of Tylehurst', p55)
[The section on Vipont (Veteripont) has been moved to Vipont1.]
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