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'Comyn01' Families covered: Comyn of Badenoch, Comyn of Buchan, Comyn of Kilbride, Cummin of Snitterfield Robert de Comyn, Earl of Northumberland (d Durham 28.01.1069-70) td 16 2 Robert came to England with William the Conqueror. It is understood that hehis family originally came from Comines in Flanders. He was slain whilst attempting to take possession of Northumberland. 5 21. td 15 2John de Comyn (d after 1135) 5  td 15 2..gggiffard01.php#font1m. ?? Giffard (daucoheir of Adam Giffard of Fonthill)a 5  5 2A. td 14 2William de Comyn (d before 1140) redTSP (Badenoch) reports that he held one-third of Fonthill, Wiltshire td 2  td 14 2m. Maud Basset (dau of Thurston BanasterBasset, m2. William de Hastings) td 2  5 2i. td 13 2William de Comyn (d 1142) td 2  5 2ii. td 13 2Richard de Comyn, Justiciar (d c1179) td 3  td 13 2..aaatholl1.php#beau target=_selfm. (c1145) Hextilda (dau of Uchtred of Tynedale)a td 3  5 2a. td 12 2William de Comyn, 1st Earl of Buchan, Justiciar of Scotland (d 1233, 2nd son) td 4a name=linkhia td 12 2font (1) William obtained his earldom through his second marriage so that title passed to his eldest son by that marriage. br (2) TSP reports that The name of his first wife has not been ascertained but adds in a note that she may have been a daughter of Robert Fitzhugh. TCP (Buchan) reports that William had 3 sons by his (unnamed) 1st wife: Richard (whose son John became Earl of Angus through his wife), Walter (who became Earl of Menteith through his wife) and Sir John of Badenoch, grandfather of Sir John 'the Red' (who d 1305). We follow TSP which disagrees with TCP in showing John of Badenoch as son rather than brother of Richard but does not show how John, Earl of Angus, fits into this family. td 4  td 12 2m1. ?? (Sarah??) (dau of Robert FitzHugh) td 4  em 2(1)em td 11em 2John Comyn, 'Earl of Angus' (dsp 1242) redpossibly fits hereem td 5  td 11em 2..aaazmisc01.php#ange6m. Matilda, Countess of Angus (b c1222, d 1261, dau of Malcolm, 6th Earl of Angus )aem td 4  5 2(2) td 11 2Richard Comyn (d before 07.1249) td 5a name=link1a 5 2(A) td 10 2Sir John 'the Red' Comyn, Lord of Badenoch, Justiciar of Galloway (d after 1273) td 6  td 10 2font TSP reports that The surname of his wife is not known, but her Christian names was Alicia ... She survived him, and married again another Comyn, with issue. TCP (Ros of Helmsley) identifes Alicia as ... td 6  td 10 2..qrros1.php#link6m. Alicia de Ros (dau of Sir William de Ros of Helmsley)a td 6  5 2(i) td 9 2William Comyn of Kirkintilloch (dsp 03.08.1291) td 7  td 9 2..mm4fzmzmisc01.php#top target=_selfm. Isabella Russell of Menteith (dau of Sir John Russell)a td 6  5 2(ii) td 9 2Sir John 'the Black' Comyn, Lord of Badenoch (d c1303) td 7  td 9 2..bb4aebaliol1.php#link4 target=_selfm. (before 1283) Alianora or Mary de Baliol (b c1246, dau of John de Baliol of Barnard Castle)a td 7  5 2(a) td 8 2Sir John 'the Red' Comyn, Lord of Badenoch (d 10.02.1305-6) td 8a name=link3a td 8 2 Sir John's mother's mother's mother was Margaret of Huntingdon. Through this connection he had a strong claim to the Scots throne (given that that Margaret was elder sister of the Isobel of Huntingdon through whom Robert the Bruce had his claim). He was murdered by that Robert Bruce, after which the latter had himself crowned. td 8  td 8 2..uvvzmisc01.php#val1 target=_selfm. Johanna de Valence (dau of William de Valence, Earl of Pembroke)a td 8  5 2((1)) td 7 2John Comyn, Lord of Badenoch (d Bannockburn 1314) td 9  td 7 2..wwwake1.php#link1 target=_selfm. Margaret Wake (dau of John Wake, 1st Lord)a td 9  5 2((A)) td 6 2AymerAdomar Comyn (d young) td 8  5 2((2)) td 7 2Joan Comyn (b c1295, d before 24.07.1326) td 9  td 7 2..fffife1.php#dath target=_selfm. David of Strathbogie, Earl of Atholl (d 28.12.1326)a td 8  5 2((3)) td 7 2Elizabeth Comyn (b 1299, a 1326) td 9  td 7 2..tttalbot01.php#link1 target=_selfm. Sir Richard Talbot, 2nd Baron (d 1356)a td 6a name=link2a 5 2(iii) td 9 2John (2nd) Comyn td 6  5 2(iv) td 9 2daughter td 7  td 9 2m. Richard Siward td 6  5 2(v) td 9 2daughter td 7  td 9 2m..mm4fzmowbray02.php#top target=_self. GodfreyGeoffrey Moubray of Barnbouglea td 6  5 2(vi) td 8 2daughter div align=center 1..div td 7  td 9font 2 face=Some web sites show this daughter's mother as Marian of Galloway. td 7  td 8 2..macmacdougall01.php#top target=_selfm. Sir Alexander MacDougall, 4th of Dunollie and of Lorn (a 1296)a div align=center 1..div td 6a name=wed2aa 5 2(vii) td 8 2daughter 10 div align=centerfont 2font 2font 1font 1..div td 7  td 8 2..mm4fzmurray01.php#badj target=_selfm. Sir Andrew de Moravia of Bothwell (d 1289)a 10 div align=centerfont 2font 2font 1font 1..div td 6  5 2(viii) td 8 2daughter 10 div align=centerfont 2font 2font 1font 1..div td 7  td 8 2..zwrkgalbraith01.php#linkhi target=_selfm. Sir William Galbrathea 10 div align=centerfont 2font 2font 1font 1..div td 6  td 10 2 Not mentioned by TSP but reported in various sources, including Douglas's 'Baronage of Scotland' in its article on the Cumings of Altyre, was another marriage, or more likely (given that his wife Alice survived him - unless Marian was Sir John's first wife), liaison of Sir John 'the Red Comyn', being with ... td 6  td 10 2..gggalloway1.php#da1 target=_self(m)p. Marian of Galloway (possibly dau of Alan, lord of Galloway)a td 6  5 2(ix) td 9 2b..cc4rzcumming01.php#top target=_selfRobert Cumine (a 1305)ab td 7  td 9 2m. _ Cumine (dau of _ Cumine of Lochaber) td 5a name=link4a 5 2(B)+ td 10 2other issue - William (a 1258), Richard (a 06.1264) td 4  5 2(3) td 11 2Walter Comyn, Lord of Badenoch, 'Earl of Menteith' (dsp 12.1258) td 5  td 11 2m. (c1230) Isabella, Countess of Menteith (dau of Maurice, the younger, 3rd Earl of Menteith) td 4  5 2(4) td 10 2Jean Comyn 10 div align=centerfont 2font 2font 1font 1..div td 5  td 10 2..qrross01.php#top target=_selfm. William, 2nd Earl of Ross (d 05.1274)a 10 div align=centerfont 2font 2font 1font 1..div td 4  5 2(5) td 10 2daughter font reported by 'The Cheyne family in Scotland' 10 div align=centerfont 2font 2font 1font 1..div td 5  td 10 2cheyne02.php#top target=_selfm. Sir Reginald le Chen of Inverugie (d by 1293)a 10 div align=centerfont 2font 2font 1font 1..div td 4  td 12 2..bb4fzbzmisc02.php#top target=_selfm2. (by 1214) Marjory, Countess of Buchan (dau of Fergus, Earl of Buchan)a td 4  5 2(6) td 11 2Alexander Comyn, 2nd Earl of Buchan, Constable of Scotland (d 1289) td 5  td 11 2..qrqzmisc01.php#gall target=_selfm. Elizabeth de Quincy (dau of Roger de Quincy, 2nd Earl of Winchester)a td 5  5 2(A) td 10 2John Comyn, 3rd Earl of Buchan, Constable of Scotland (b c1259, dspm before 03.12.1308) td 6a name=beauma td 10 2..fffife1.php#e10 target=_selfm. Isabel of Fife (dau of Duncan, 9th Earl of Fife)a td 6  5 2(i) td 8 2Isabel Comyn font reported by 'The Cheyne family in Scotland' 10 div align=centerfont 2font 2font 1font 1..div td 7  td 8 2cheyne02.php#link1 target=_selfm. Francis le Chen of Stralocha 10 div align=centerfont 2font 2font 1font 1..div td 5  5 2(B) td 10 2Sir Alexander Comyn (d before 03.12.1308, 3rd son) td 6  td 10 2m. Johanna Latimer td 6  5 2(i) td 9 2Alicia Comyn, Countess of Buchan td 7  td 9 2..bb4aebeaumont02.php#top target=_selfm. (before 14.07.1310) Henry de Beaumont, 1st Lord, 'Earl of Buchan' (d c03.1340)a td 6a name=link5a 5 2(ii) td 9 2Margaret Comyn, Countess of Buchan td 7  td 9 2m1. Sir John Ross (dsp) td 7  td 9 2..lllindsay01.php#link3m2. Sir William Lindsaya td 5  5 2(C) td 9 2Marjorie Comyn 10 div align=centerfont 2font 2font 1font 1..div td 6  td 9 2..dddunbar01.php#stew3 target=_selfm. Sir Patrick 'black beard', 8th Earl of Dunbar, 1st Earl of March (b c1242, d 10.10.1308)a 10 div align=centerfont 2font 2font 1font 1..div td 5  5 2(D) td 9 2AgnesMarjoryEgidiaEmma Comyn 10 div align=centerfont 2font 2font 1font 1..div td 6  td 9 2..ss4tzstrathearn1.php#strth3 target=_selfMalise, 6th Earl of Strathearn (b c1257, d 1312-3)a 10 div align=centerfont 2font 2font 1font 1..div td 5  5 2(E) td 10 2Elizabeth Comyn (d 13289) td 6  td 10 2..uvumfreville1.php#link1 target=_selfm. Gilbert de Umfraville, Earl of Angus (b c1244, d 1307)a td 5  5 2(F) td 9 2Elena (?) Comyn 10 div align=centerfont 2font 2font 1font 1..div td 6  td 9 2..aaatholl1.php#btgn target=_selfm. Sir William of Brechin (d by 1292)a 10 div align=centerfont 2font 2font 1font 1..div td 5a name=linkloa 5 2(G) td 10 2daughter td 6  td 10 2m. Sir Nicholas Soulis td 5  5 2(H)+ td 10 2other issue - Roger, William td 4  5 2(7) td 10 2Idonea Comyn div align=center 1..div td 5  td 10 2..hh4aahay01.php#con1 target=_selfm. Gilbert de Haya of Erroll, Sheriff of Perth (a 1237, 1262)a div align=center 1..div td 4  5 2(8) td 10 2Elizabeth Comyn (d 1267) div align=center 1Jdiv td 5  td 10 2..mm4aemar1.php#top target=_selfm. William, 5th Earl of Mar (d 1281, Chamberlain)a div align=center 1Jdiv td 4  5 2(9) td 10 2Agnes Comyn div align=center 1..div td 5  td 10 2..mm4aemeldrum01.php#top target=_selfm. Sir Philip de Melgdrum (a 1262)a 2 div align=center 1..div td 4a name=linklo2 id=linklo2a 5 2(10)+ td 11 2other issue - Sir William, Fergus (a 1270) td 4  td 12 2 Not known by which marriage was ... td 4  5 2(12) td 10 2Margaret Comyn 10 div align=centerfont 2font 2font 1font 1..div td 5  td 10 2..kkkeith01.php#linkhi target=_selfm. Sir John de Keith (d before 1270)a 10 div align=centerfont 2font 2font 1font 1..div td 3  5 2b. td 12 2David de Comyn of Kilbride (d before 07.08.1247, 5th son) font had issue td 4  td 12 2..uvvzmisc01.php#val3 target=_selfm. Isabella de Valloniis (dau of Roger de Valloniis of Easter Kilbride)a td 4  td 12 2font The following was kindly brought to our attention by a site visitor (JB, 13.04.06). td 4  2(1) td 11 2William Comyn of Kilbride td 5  td 11 2clavering1.php#linklom. Eufemia de Clavering (d 1288, dau of Roger FitzJohn de Clavering)a td 5a name=linklo3 id=linklo3a 2(A)+ ? td 10 2 issue - John, Edmund td 3  5 2c.+ td 12 2other issue - John (bur before 1159), Odo, Simon td 2  5 2iii. td 13 2Walter de Comyn redmentioned in TSP (Badenoch)   td 15red 2 VCH (Warwickshire, vol 3, Snitterfield) reports that n 2ephew of a William Cumin who obtained Snitterfield in Warwickshire was a Walter (a 1174). Noting the connection with the Giffards of Fonthill above & below, we think it likely that that Walter was of this family.   2B. td 14 2?? de Comyn of Cumin td 2  2i. td 13 2Walter de Comyn of Snitterfield (a 1174) redprobably of this generation, succeeded by ... td 3  2a. td 12 2William de Comyn of Snitterfield (d 1216) td 4  td 12 2m. Margery (m2. William de Hastings) td 4  2(1) td 11 2William Comyn or Cummin of Snitterfield (d 1223-4) td 5  td 11 2 VCH (Warwickshire, vol 5, Avon Dassdett) reports that William's widow (Eve) sued for her part of her dower. This indicates that Eve was one of the heirs of Andrew Giffard of Fonthill which is supported by VCH (Warwickshire, vol 5, Halford) which reports that William was one of the Giffard coheirs (by right of his wife). td 5  td 11 2..gggiffard01.php#font1m. Eve (possibly sister of Andrew Giffard of Fonthill, m2. John de Mara)a td 5  2(A) td 10 2Margery or Margaret Cummin td 6  td 10 2..cc4rzczmisc02.php#link1m. John de Cantilupe of Snitterfielda 5 22. td 15 2William de Comyn (Chancellor to King David I) table p 2Main sources: TSP (Badenoch), TSP (Buchan), BE1883 (Cumyn of Buchan).br #topBack to top of pagea p ?php ?