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'Fife1' Families covered: Early Earls of Fife, Strathbogie Earls of Atholl There is mystery surrounding the identities of the early holders of the Earldom of Fife and it is by no means certain that (for example) Gillemichael (shown below as the 3rd Earl) was in fact descended from Dufagan (shown below as the 1st Earl). Some web sites report the old suggestion that Dufagan was son of MacDuff, ie. grandson of ..aaalpin1.php#top target=_selfKing Duff (or Dubh)a, but this is rejected by most serious genealogists simply because MacDuff is thought to have never existed. td 15 2Dufagan (or Beth), 1st Earl of Fife (a 1107, 1114)font succeeded by ... 5 21. td 14 2Constantine, 2nd Earl of Fife (d 1129)font succeeded by ... 5 5 2A. td 13 2Gillemichael, 3rd Earl of Fife (d by 07.1136) td 2 5 2i. td 12 2Duncan, 4th Earl of Fife (d 1154) td 3 td 12 2m. Hela td 3a name=linkhia 5 2a. td 11 2Duncan, 5th Earl of Fife, Justiciar (d 1203-4) td 4 td 11 2m. Ada or Ela (niece of Malcolm IV, King of Scotland) td 4 12 5 12 2(1) td 10 12 2Malcolm, 6th Earl of Fife (dsp 1228) td 5 td 10 2m. MaudMatilda (dau of Gilbert, 3rd Earl of Strathearn) td 4 12 5 12 2(2) td 10 12 2Duncan of Fife td 5 td 10 2m. Aliz Corbert (dau of Walter Corbet of Makerstoun) td 5a name=link2a 5 2(A) td 9 2Malcolm, 7th Earl of Fife, Regent (d 1266) td 6 td 9 2..wwwales02.php#lk5 target=_selfm. Helen of Wales (a 1291, dau of Llewelyn, Prince of Wales)a td 6 5 2(i) td 8 2Colban, 8th Earl of Fife (b c1244, d 1270) td 7 td 8 2..lllundin1.php#link1 target=_selfm. Anne Lundin (dau of Sir Alan of Lundin, Durward)a td 7 5 2(a) td 7 2Duncan, 9th Earl of Fife (b c1262, d 25.09.1288) td 8 td 7 2..cc4aqclare1.php#gred target=_selfm. Johanna de Clare (a 1322, dau of Gilbert de Clare, Earl of Gloucester) a td 8a name=e10a 5 bgcolor=#99FFFF 2((1)) td 6 2Duncan, 10th Earl of Fife (b c1285, d 1353)20 10 2b......supportindividuals.php#dd target=_self§Dab td 9 td 6 2..ppplantagenet2.php#brab2j target=_selfm. (11.1307) Mary Monthermer (b c1298, dau of Ralph, Lord Monthermer)a td 9 5 2((A)) td 5 2Isabella, Countess of Fife (dsp c1390) td 10 td 5 2m1. Sir William Ramsay of Colluthie (d c1360) td 10 td 5 2m2. Walter Stewart, Earl of Fife (dsp c1363, son of King Robert II) td 10 td 5 2m3. Sir Thomas Byset of Upsetlington (dsp before 17.04.1365) td 10 td 5 2m4. John de Dunbar (dsp 1371) td 8a name=link1a 5 2((2)) td 5 2Isabel of Fife div align=center 1..div td 9 td 5 2..cc4aqcomyn01.php#link4 target=_selfm. John Comyn, 3rd Earl of Buchan (b c1259, dsp before 03.12.1308)a div align=center 1..div td 6 5 2(ii) td 8 2Macduff of Reres (d Falkirk 22.07.1298) td 7 5 2(a) td 6 2Isabella div align=center 1..div td 8 td 6 2..bb4aebalfour1.php#link2 target=_selfm. Sir David de Balfour of Strathor (d 1318)a div align=center 1..div td 6 5 2(iii) td 7 2daughter div align=center 1..div td 7 td 7 2..mm4fzmurray01.php#badj target=_selfm. Sir William de Moravia of Petyn (d before 03.1253)a div align=center 1..div td 4 12 5 12 2(3) td 10 12 2David of Strathbogie td 5 5 2(A) td 9 2John of Strathbogie, Earl of Atholl td 6 td 9 2..aaatholl1.php#fife target=_selfm. Ada, Countess of Atholl (dau of Sir David of Hastings, Earl of Atholl)a td 6a name=datha 5 2(i) td 8 2Sir David of Strathbogie, Earl of Atholl (b c1240, d 06.08.1270) td 7 td 8 2m1. Helen td 7 td 8 2..ppplantagenet1.php#link5 target=_selfm2. (before 06.1266) Isabella Chilham (d 1291-2, dau of Richard de Chilham of Dover)a td 7 5 2(a) td 7 2John of Strathbogie, Earl of Atholl (d 10.11.1306) td 8 td 7 2..mm4aemar1.php#link1 target=_selfm. Marjory of Mar (dau of Sir Donald, 6th Earl of Mar)a td 8 5 2((1)) td 6 2 David of Strathbogie, Earl of Atholl (d 28.12.1326) td 9 td 6 2..cc4aqcomyn01.php#link3 target=_selfm. Joan Comyn (b c1295, d before 24.07.1326, dau of John Comyn, Lord of Badenoch)a td 9 5 2((A)) td 5 2David of Strathbogie, Earl of Atholl (b 01.02.1309, d 30.11.1335) td 10a name=percysa td 5 2..bb4aebeaumont02.php#linklo target=_selfm. Katherine Beaumont (d 11.11.1368, dau of Henry Beaumont, 1st Lord, 'Earl of Buchan')a td 10 5 2((i)) td 4 2David of Strathbogie, Earl of Atholl (b c1332, d c12.1369) td 11 td 4 2ferrers2.php#linklo target=_selfm. (before 1361) Elizabeth Ferrers (d 22.10.1375, dau of Henry Ferrers, 2nd Lord of Groby)a td 11 5 2((a)) td 3 2Elizabeth of Strathbogie (d after 1416) td 12 td 3 2..pppercy02.php#fife target=_selfm1. (1376) Sir Thomas Percy (d 1388)a td 12 td 3 2 Through this marriage, a descendant (in 1916) successfully claimed the barony of Strabolgi (Strathbogie). td 12 td 3 2..ss4asscrope3.php#link1 target=_selfm2. (before 1402) Sir John le Scrope (b c1345, d 12.1405)a td 12 td 3 2m3. Robert de Thorley td 11a name=eura 5 2((b)) td 3 2Philippa of Strathbogie (d 1395) td 12 td 3 2..pppercy02.php#fife target=_selfm1. Sir Ralph Percy (d 1397)a td 12 td 3 2m2. Sir John Halsham td 9 5 2((B)) td 5 2Aymer or Adomar of Strathbogie or Atholl td 10 td 5 2m. Maria td 10 5 2((i)) td 4 2Isabella of Strathbogie or Atholl td 11a name=link3a td 4 2..eeeure1.php#top target=_selfm. Ralph de Eure (d 10.03.14212)a td 11 td 4 2 The dates make this connection look questionable but not impossible. td 10 5 2((ii)) td 4 2Maria of Strathbogie or Atholl td 11 td 4 2m. Robert de l'Isle td 9a name=afrekaa td 6 2 Shown by some web sites as a possible ancestor of later Duff families, although the connection is apparently not accepted by serious genealogists, was ... td 9 5 2((C)) td 5 2b..ddduff01.php#top target=_selfJohn Duff (d 1404)ab td 8 5 2((2)) td 6 2Sir John of Strathbogie Atholl (a 1316) td 8 5 2((3)) td 5 2Isabel of Strathbogie (d 1317) 10 div align=centerfont 1..div td 9 td 5 2..bb4fzbruce02.php#link4 target=_selfm. Edward Bruce, Earl of Carrick, King of Irelanda 2 10div align=centerfont 1..div td 7 em 2(b)em td 7em 2Amabilla red shown here (speculatively) by some as wife of ..gggordon01.php#con0Sir Adam of Gordonaem td 4 12 5 12 2(4) td 10 12 2daughter (a 1188) td 3 5 2b. td 11 2Adam of Fife td 4 td 11 2m. Orabilis td 3 5 2c. td 11 2Afreka of Fife td 4 td 11 2..aaatholl1.php#north target=_selfm. Harald Maddadson, Earl of Orkney (b 1134, d 1206)a td 3a name=linkloa td 12 2 TSP (Fife) reports that Duncan (4th Earl) had at least two sons and a daughter, identified above. It also reports that Some writers have held that the families of Spens, McIntosh, Duff and Fife are descended from this Earl of Fife, but without proof, and it is now certain that the origin of the McIntoshes is to be looked for elsewhere. Notwithstanding this caution, and noting that we show above an alternative ancestor for various Duff families, we show the following additional connections. td 3 5 2d. td 10 2b..macmackintosh01.php#top target=_selfShaw or Sheagh Mac-in-toisich (d 1179)ab div align=center 1 ..div td 4 td 11 2 BLG1952 (Mackintosh of Mackintosh) reports this much-claimed connection, identifying Shaw as 2nd son of Duncan McDuff, the 2nd of that name, and 3rd Earl of Fife. The numbering of the earls differs between sources, so that difference is not considered significant, but the dates indicate that, if he was of this family, he was probably son of the 1st Duncan rather than the 2nd. In Gaelic, mac in toisich means 'son of the chiefleader. td 3 5 2e. td 10 2b..ss4asspens1.php#top target=_selfJohn le Dispensator (a 1161)a bfont ancestor of Spens family 10div align=centerfont 1..div td 4 td 11 2 This John may have been son-in-law rather than son of Earl Duncan. td 2 5 2ii. td 12 2Hugh (Eoghin) of Fife td 3 5 2a. td 10 2Hugh (Egius) of Fife 10div align=centerfont 1..div td 4 td 11 2font This Hugh was long identified as father of John of (Wemyss and) Methil, ancestor of the Wemyss family, but according to TSP (Wemyss) that connection has since been disproved as John's father has since been confirmed as ..wwwemyss01.php#top target=_selfMichael of (Wemyss and) Methila whose wife may have been a daughter of Earl Gillemichael. td 3 5 2b. td 10 2b..aaabernethy1.php#top target=_selfOrm de Abernethy (a 11723)ab 10div align=centerfont 1..div td 4 td 11 2font Orm, son of Hugh, is identified in TSP(Saltoun), and also 'Fife P&H', as ancestor of the Abernethy family. BP1999 (Saltoun) identifies that Hugh as son of Gillemichael, 3rd Earl of Fife. That claim was not made for BP1934 (Saltoun) so it is assumed that some additional evidence has been found to justify that identification. td 2 5 2iii. td 11 2Ete of Fife div align=center 1Jdiv td 3 td 11 2..bb4fzbzmisc02.php#top target=_selfm. Gartnait, Earl of Buchana div align=center 1Jdiv table p 2Main sources: TSP (Fife), TSP (Atholl), TCP (Fife), 'Fife P&H'. br #topBack to top of pagea p ?php ?