'Ramsay04'
Index
links to: Lead / LetterFamilies covered: Ramsay of Abbotshall, Ramsay of Balmain, Ramsay of Waughton
'Ramsay04'Index
links to: Lead / Letter
Families covered:
Ramsay of Abbotshall, Ramsay of Balmain, Ramsay of Waughton
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| Sir John Ramsay of Trarinzean, Lord Bothwell (d Flodden 09.09.1513) | |||||||||||||||
| The parentage of this John Ramsay is unknown. One possibility, mentioned by TCP (Bothwell) amongst others, was John Ramsay of Corstoun by his wife Janet Napier but such has not been confirmed. He was a favourite of King James III but, following the assassination of that king, his title was forfeited by Parliament. | |||||||||||||||
| m1. (before 15.03.1504-5, div before 02.1507-8) Janet Kennedy (dau of John Kennedy, 2nd Lord) | |||||||||||||||
| m2. Isobel Livingston (d before 11.1552, dau of Livingston of Easter Wemyss) | |||||||||||||||
| 1. | William Ramsay (b before 1510) | ||||||||||||||
| A. | ?? Ramsay | ||||||||||||||
| Uncertain on number of intervening generations. BP1934 mentions Lord Bothwell (above) but, other than to confirm that he (David) was descended from him (Lord Bothwell), commences its pedigree with the David Ramsay (below) who married Margaret Ogilvie. The following 2 generations are speculative inasmuch as, although it seems certain that David & William were of this family, it is not known whether they were grandparent/parent of the David who married Margaret Ogilvie or some other connection (such as uncle). | |||||||||||||||
| i. | David Ramsay of Balmain (a 08.1588) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Catharine Carnegie (dau of Sir Robert Carnegie, 5th of Kinnaird) | |||||||||||||||
| David and Catherine may or may not have been parents of ... | |||||||||||||||
| a. | William Ramsay of Balmain father of Andrew, possibly father of ... | ||||||||||||||
| (1) | David Ramsay of Balmain (d 1636) the first in BP1934's connected pedigree | ||||||||||||||
| m. Margaret Ogilvie (dau of Sir Gilbert Ogilvie of that ilk) | |||||||||||||||
| (A) | Sir Gilbert Ramsay, 1st Bart of Balmain (a 1651) | ||||||||||||||
| m(2?). (1630) Grizel Durham (d 09.1666, dau of James Durham of Pitkerrow) | |||||||||||||||
| (i) | Sir David Ramsay, 2nd Bart of Balmain (d 09.1673) | ||||||||||||||
| m1. Margaret Carnegie (dau of Sir James (sb John?) Carnegie of Balnamoon) | |||||||||||||||
| (a) | Sir Charles Ramsay, 3rd Bart of Balmain (d 1695) | ||||||||||||||
| m1. (mcrt 1673) Margaret Carnegie (dsp, dau of John Carnegie of Boysack) | |||||||||||||||
| m2. Elizabeth Falconer (dau of Sir Alexander Falconer of Glenfarquhar) | |||||||||||||||
| ((1)) | Sir David Ramsay, 4th Bart of Balmain (dsp 09.1710) | ||||||||||||||
| ((2)) | Sir Alexander Ramsay, 5th Bart of Balmain (d unm 27.01.1754) | ||||||||||||||
| ((3)) | Charles Ramsay (d 1727) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Catherine Mill (dau of James Mill, Provost of Montrose) | |||||||||||||||
| ((A)) | Sir Alexander Ramsay, later Irvine-Ramsay, 6th Bart of Balmain (d unm 11.02.1806) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (09.12.1774) Mary Irvine (dau of Alexander Irvine, 2nd of Saphock) | |||||||||||||||
| ((B)) | Catherine Ramsay (d 10.12.1798) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Sir Thomas Burnett, 6th Bart of Leys (d 05.1783) | |||||||||||||||
| Their second son inherited Balmain and assumed the name of Ramsay. He was created a baronet in 1806. | |||||||||||||||
| ((4)) | Helen Ramsay probably of this generation | ||||||||||||||
| m. (1707) Hercules Scott of Brotherton (b 1659, d 1747) | |||||||||||||||
| m2. Elizabeth Coutts (widow of Sir Alexander Burnett, 2nd Bart) | |||||||||||||||
| (B) | Marie Ramsay possibly of this generation | ||||||||||||||
| m1. James Strachan, 1st of Inchtuthill | |||||||||||||||
| m2. Alexander Buchan of Auchmacoy (d before 04.08.1669) | |||||||||||||||
| (C) | Isabel Ramsay (d 1660) possibly of this generation | ||||||||||||||
| m. James Douglas of Tilquhillie (d 1672) | |||||||||||||||
| (2) | Andrew Ramsay (d 1659, minister in Edinburgh, younger son) possibly of this generation | ||||||||||||||
| Andrew is identified in an article in Wikipedia (on Lord Abbotshall) as a younger son of William Ramsay of Balmain. The following was developed from that article plus BEB1841 (Ramsay of Abbotshall). | |||||||||||||||
| m. Mary Frazer (dau of Alexander Frazer of Dores (Fraser of Durris)) | |||||||||||||||
| (A) | Sir Andrew Ramsay, 1st Bart of Abbotshall, Lord Provost of Edinburgh (b 05.1619, d 17.01.1688, member of the Court of Session as Lord Abbotshall, 3rd son) | ||||||||||||||
BEB1841 indicates that it was his son who was one of the senators of the College of Justice with the title Lord Abbotshall but we (provisionally) follow Wikipedia in showing this Andrew as the judge. |
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| m. Janet Craw (d 10.1699, dau of James Craw of Gunsgreen by Janet Williamson) | |||||||||||||||
| (i) | Sir Andrew Ramsay of Waughton, 2nd Bart of Abbotshall (a 1722) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Margaret Hepburn (b 1650, d 1672, dau/heir of John Hepburn of Waughton) | |||||||||||||||
| (a) | Sir Andrew Ramsay of Waughton, 3rd Bart of Abbotshall (dsp) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Anne Montgomerie (dau of Hugh Montgomerie, 7th Earl of Eglinton) | |||||||||||||||
| (ii) | Janet Ramsay | ||||||||||||||
| m. (1669) Sir John Lauder (Lord Fountainhall) | |||||||||||||||
| (iii) | Helen Ramsay | ||||||||||||||
| m. (mcrt 22.12.1687) Alexander Hay of Monkton | |||||||||||||||
| (iv) | Margart Ramsay | ||||||||||||||
| m. George Home of Whitfield (d 1739) | |||||||||||||||
| b. | Elizabeth Ramsay probably of this generation | ||||||||||||||
| m. John Middleton of Netherseat and Kilhill (d c1603) | |||||||||||||||
| c. | Jean Ramsay probably of this generation | -- |
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| m. Alexander Durham, 3rd of Pittkerrow (d by 1621) | -- |
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Main sources: BP1934
(Ramsay of Balmain) with input as reported above
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