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Families covered: Sydney (Sidney) of Stoke Dabernon (D'Abernon)
Sir William Sydney (bur 1188) | |||||||||||||||
(1) This is presumably the Sir William Sydney who is reported by BE1883 (Sydney) to have been Chamberlain to King Henry II (who r. 1154-1189). This pedigree is brought into doubt by TCP (Leicester) which reports: "The family descends from John de Sydenie, a Surrey yeoman, who lived on a farm at Alford in the reign of Edward I. When, however, Sir Henry, father of the first (Sydney) Earl of Leicester, instructed Robert Cooke, the "rascally King of Arms", to prepare his pedigree, such a descent was not thought fine enough, and various high-placed apocryphal ancestors were invented, beginning with a William de Sidne, Knight, in the service of Henry II, and continuing through a long line of knights whose existence was established by various grants and deeds which the ingenious but unprincipled Clarenceux forged." Consequently, the whole of this page should be viewed with some scepticism! (2) This page was originally prepared using the web site 'TUDOR', which spells the family name as 'Sydney', as the Main Source. It was reviewed & redone on 18.04.17 using Berry's CountyGen which spells the family name as 'Sidney'. Provisionally, we have retained the original spelling. |
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1. | Sir Simon Sydney (d 1213) | ||||||||||||||
m. Margaret Deleamare (dau of Sir Thomas De la Mare) | |||||||||||||||
A. | Sir Roger Sydney (bur 1239) | ||||||||||||||
m. Eleanor Stopham (dau of Sir James Stopham, sister of John) | |||||||||||||||
i. | Sir Henry Sydney (d 1268) | ||||||||||||||
m. Maud Dabernon (dau of Robert Dabernon, sister/heir of Richard) | |||||||||||||||
a. | Sir Henry Sydney (d 1306) | ||||||||||||||
m. Mary Hussey (dau of Sir Ralph Hussey) | |||||||||||||||
(1) | Sir William Sydney | ||||||||||||||
m. Elizabeth Ashburnham (dau of Richard Ashburnham) | |||||||||||||||
(A) | William Sydney (dsp) | ||||||||||||||
m. _ d'Alteripa (dau of John d'Alteripa) | |||||||||||||||
(B) | John Sydney (d infant) name given by 'TUDOR' | ||||||||||||||
(C) | John Sydney shown as 3rd son by Berry | ||||||||||||||
m. Ellen Battisford (dau of Robert Battisford) | |||||||||||||||
(i) | Sir William Sydney | ||||||||||||||
m. Joan Brockhull (dau of William Brockhull of Sussex) | |||||||||||||||
(a) | John Sydney | ||||||||||||||
m1/2. Isabel Barrington (dau of Sir Nicholas Barrington) | |||||||||||||||
m2/1. Margaret Ore (dau of Robert Ore of Ore) | |||||||||||||||
((1)) | William Sydney 'of Penshurst' | ||||||||||||||
m. Alice Clunfold (dau/coheir of John Clunfold) | |||||||||||||||
((A)) | William Sydney | ||||||||||||||
m. Cicely Michell (dau of Sir John Michell by Margaret, dau/heir of Hamelin Matham) | |||||||||||||||
((i)) | William Sydney 'of Penshurst' of Stoke Dabernon (d 1454, MP) | ||||||||||||||
MGH (NS5 vol 1 (1916), p158) starts with this William, identifying him as 'of Baynards' and showing him as having had issue (unnamed) by his 1st wife (not mentioned by Berry) ... | |||||||||||||||
m1. Cicely Wolberg (dau of Nicholas Wolberg) | |||||||||||||||
((a))+ | issue | ||||||||||||||
m1. Elizabeth (Isabel) St. John | |||||||||||||||
((b)) | William Sydney of Sussex not mentioned by MGH | ||||||||||||||
'TUDOR' shows William as brother rather than father of Elizabeth. We follow Berry. | |||||||||||||||
m. Elizabeth or Jane Norbury (dau of Sir Henry Norbury) | |||||||||||||||
(((1))) | Anne Sydney | ||||||||||||||
m. William Uvedall of Wickham | |||||||||||||||
(((2))) | Elizabeth Sydney | ||||||||||||||
m. John Hampden of Buckinghamshire (d 08.1498) | |||||||||||||||
((c)) | Anne Sydney mentioned only by MGH | ||||||||||||||
m1. John Michelgrove | |||||||||||||||
## MGH identifies Anne as the wife of John Michelgrove. Provisionally, we show John's wife as Mary, just below.. | |||||||||||||||
m2. John Apsley | |||||||||||||||
m2. Thomasine Barrington (dau/heir of John Barrington, widow of John Lunsford of Battel, m3. John Hopton) | |||||||||||||||
((d)) | Nicholas Sydney of Penshurst (d 1512) | ||||||||||||||
m. Ann Brandon (dau/coheir of Sir William Brandon) | |||||||||||||||
((B)) | daughter | ||||||||||||||
m. _ Luntsford | |||||||||||||||
((C)) | daughter | ||||||||||||||
m. _Stydolf | |||||||||||||||
((D)) | Alice Sydney | ||||||||||||||
m. Arnold Brocas (son/heir of Thomas) | |||||||||||||||
((E)) | Elizabeth Sydney | ||||||||||||||
m. Thomas Covert of Slougham | |||||||||||||||
((F)) | Mary Sydney shown as of this generation by various web sites but see ## just above | ||||||||||||||
m. John Michelgrove of Michelgrove | |||||||||||||||
((2)) | John Sydney | ||||||||||||||
Visitation (Sussex, 1530+1633-4, Apsley) supports the following but shows this John as brother of William "a quo Viscount Lesley" with both being sons of John Sidney by Margaret, dau of Robert Ore of Ore. | |||||||||||||||
((A)) | John Sydney of Alford, Surrey | ||||||||||||||
m. Isabel Petevin (dau of Richard Petevin (Payteuine or Patuine)) | |||||||||||||||
((i)) | Joan Sydney | ||||||||||||||
m. William Apsley | |||||||||||||||
(b) | William Sydney | ||||||||||||||
b.+ | other issue - Simon, Roger, Mary, Ann | ||||||||||||||
ii. | Simon Sydney | ||||||||||||||
iii. | daughter | ||||||||||||||
m. Sir John Wallais | |||||||||||||||
a. | Sir Baldwin Wallais | ||||||||||||||
2. | Roger Sydney (dsp) | ||||||||||||||
Main source(s): CountyGen (Berry, Kent, p478+)
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