'Fermor3'
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Families covered: Fermor of Welches (Welshes or Walsh)
[The orginal 'Fermor3', which was launched on 05.09.06 (when Fermor2 was still in draft), was renamed Farmer01 on 05.01.23.]
| (1) BEB1844 identifies the arms of the family as "Gu. a cheveron vairy arg. and az. between three lions rampant or". That indicates that there was probably no known connection with the family shown on Fermor1. (2) BEB1844 reports that "The family of Fermor came originally out of France in the reign of Edward III" (who r. 1327-1377) and that "possibly the Frenchman who settled in (Sussex) in the latter end of Edward's reign" was ... |
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| John Fermor | |||||||||||||||
| 1. | Walter Fermor | ||||||||||||||
| m. Margery Lee | |||||||||||||||
| A. | John Fermor | ||||||||||||||
| i. | John Fermor | ||||||||||||||
| a. | John Fermor | ||||||||||||||
| There is some contradiction between BEB1844 and Visitation over the next generations. We follow BEB1844 as that does refer to the Visitation so we presume that it has taken the Visitation into account but determined that it was not fully reliable. | |||||||||||||||
| (1) | William Fermor generation given by BE1844 but omitted by Visitation | ||||||||||||||
| (A) | Alexander Fermor of Welches, Sussex (bur 02.04.1602) | ||||||||||||||
| Visitation (1633-4) names him William. Visitation (1662) starts with this generation, naming him Alexander, which is supported by BEB1844. | |||||||||||||||
| m. Elizabeth Fowle (dau of William Fowle of Riverhall) | |||||||||||||||
| (i) | William Fermor of Welches | ||||||||||||||
| m1. (sp) _ Fulwar | |||||||||||||||
| m2. Elizabeth or Anne Scott (dau of George Scott of Congherst, widow of _ Ordium) | |||||||||||||||
| (a) | William Fermor (dsp) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Alice Williams of London | |||||||||||||||
| (b) | Anne Fermor | ||||||||||||||
| m. Alexander Elliot of Bibleham | |||||||||||||||
| m3. (05.08.1596) Margaret Squire (dau of William Squire of London, widow of _ Barlow) | |||||||||||||||
| (c) | Alexander Fermor of Welches (bpt 08.01.1598, d before 20.03.1663) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (c06.1617) Mary Fowle (dau of Anthony Fowle of Rotherfield) | |||||||||||||||
| ((1)) | William Fermor of Welches (b c1625, d 1686) | ||||||||||||||
| m1. (30.08.1653) Mary Pickering (dau of Robert Pickering of Sussex) | |||||||||||||||
| ((A)) | Alexander Fermor (bpt 28.02.1655-6, d young) | ||||||||||||||
| m2. Margaret Buck (dau of Peter Buck of Rochester) | |||||||||||||||
| ((B)) | William Fermor (bpt 08.12.1658) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Elizabeth Shorthose or Shorthouse | |||||||||||||||
| ((i)) | Mary Fermor | ||||||||||||||
| m. Charles Bere of Devon | |||||||||||||||
| m3. Martha Thomas (dau of Tristram Thomas of Kent) | |||||||||||||||
| ((C)) | Sir Henry Fermor of Welches, Bart (dsp 03.06.1734) | ||||||||||||||
| BEB1844 reports that Henry was created a baronet on 04.05.1725 with special remainder to Charles Eversfield. TCB (vol 5, Fermor', p63) reports that he was "a cousin of his then wife's first husband", further identifying him as "1st cousin, twice removed, to John Eversfield". | |||||||||||||||
| m1. Dorothy Thornycroft (dau of John Thornycroft (by Dorothy Howel), sister of Sir John, Bart) | |||||||||||||||
| m2. Mary (not Maud) Thomas (dau of William Thomas of Folkington, sister of Sir William (Bart) & relict of John Eversield of Horsham, Sir Thomas Beckford (Sheriff of London) & Corbett Hene of London) ## see here ## | |||||||||||||||
| ((D)) | James Fermor (dsp) | ||||||||||||||
| m. ?? (Mrs. Luck) | |||||||||||||||
| ((E)) | Charles Fermor (dsp) | ||||||||||||||
| m. _ Jones (dau of Sir Theop(hilus?) Jones) | |||||||||||||||
| ((F)) | John Fermor (1.0.1674, d unm 29.12.1722, Colonel, MP) | ||||||||||||||
| ((2)) | Henry Fermor | ||||||||||||||
| m. Mary Elphick (dau of Thomas Elphick or Elseck of Seaford) | |||||||||||||||
| ((A)) | son (d young) | ||||||||||||||
| ((3)) | Elizabeth Fermor | ||||||||||||||
| m. Walter Lapp | |||||||||||||||
| ((4))+ | other issue - Anthony (d unm), Margaret, Mary | ||||||||||||||
| (d) | Bridget Fermor | ||||||||||||||
| m1. John Olive of Hastins | |||||||||||||||
| ((1))+ | issue - Richard, Judith, Margaret | ||||||||||||||
| m2. Thomas Higginson (cleric) | |||||||||||||||
| ((4)) | Alexander Higginson | ||||||||||||||
| BEB1844 identifies William as Alexander's eldest son. Visitation shows William's younger brothers as ... | |||||||||||||||
| (ii) | Nicholas Fermor | ||||||||||||||
| m. _ Wood (dau/heir of _ Wood) | |||||||||||||||
| (a) | Herbert Fermor | ||||||||||||||
| ((1)) | Nicholas Fermor | ||||||||||||||
| (iii) | Henry Fermor (dsp) | ||||||||||||||
| (2) | John Fermor mentioned by Visitation but not by BEB1844 | ||||||||||||||
| ii. | Thomas Fermor mentioned by Visitation but not by BEB1844 | ||||||||||||||
Main source(s): BEB1844 ('Fermor of Welches'), Visitation (Sussex, 1530 & 1663-4, 'Fermor'), Visitation (Sussex, 1662, 'Fermor of Welsges in Rotherfield', with additions by Harleian editor)
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