'Ramsay01'
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Families covered: Ramsay of Dalhousie, Ramsay of Inverleith
| As with many other families, the relationships between the earliest recorded members of this family are not known. Except where otherwise noted, the following is very much 'possible' rather than 'probable'. We generally follow TSP and note that BP1934 shows these early generations slightly differently. | |||||||||||||||
| Simon de Ramsay (a 1178) presumably a relation (possibly father) of ... | |||||||||||||||
| 1. | William de Ramsay (a 1196) presumably a relation (possibly father) of the undermentioned shown as brothers though they may have been cousins | ||||||||||||||
| A. | Sir Nessus de Ramsay (a 1217) father of ... | ||||||||||||||
| i. | Peter or Patrick de Ramsay, Bishop of Aberdeen (d 1256) | ||||||||||||||
| ii. | William de Ramsay, Pior of St. Serf's (a 1232) | ||||||||||||||
| B. | Nicholas de Ramsay (a 1250) | ||||||||||||||
| C. | William de Ramsay (a 09.1255) probably father of ... | ||||||||||||||
| i. | William Ramsay de Dalwolsy (a 1296, 1320)§D |
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| TSP reports that the following Sir Edmond was "either brother or son" of William. We show him as William's son but are concerned that we may be showing too many generations. | |||||||||||||||
| a. | Sir Edmond de Ramsay (a 1311) presumably a relation (possibly father) of ... | ||||||||||||||
| (1) | Alexander de Ramsay of Dalwolsy, Sheriff of Teviotdale (d c1342) succeeded by his brother ... | ||||||||||||||
| (2) | Sir William de Ramsay of Inverleith, later of Dalhousie (d c1357) | ||||||||||||||
| (A) | Sir Patrick Ramsay of Dalhousie (d c1377) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Margaret | |||||||||||||||
| (i) | Alexander Ramsay of Carnock (dvp) | ||||||||||||||
| (a) | Alexander Ramsay of Dalhousie (d Homildon Hill 14.09.1402) succeeded by ... | ||||||||||||||
| ((1)) | Robert Ramsay of Dalhousie (a 1416) succeeded by ... | ||||||||||||||
| ((A)) | Sir Alexander Ramsay of Dalhousie (d before 19.03.1464) | ||||||||||||||
| The descent appears to be secure from this Alexander. | |||||||||||||||
| m. Margaret | |||||||||||||||
| ((i)) | Alexander Ramsay, Sheriff of Edinbugh (dvp before 1456) | ||||||||||||||
| ((a)) | Alexander Ramsay of Dalhousie (d before 16.03.1482-3) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Isabella or Elizabeth Douglas (dau of George Douglas, 4th Earl of Angus) | |||||||||||||||
| (((1))) | Alexander Ramsay of Dalhousie (d Flodden 09.09.1513) | -- | |||||||||||||
| m1. (div) Elena Home | |||||||||||||||
| m2. (c1508) Nicolas Ker (dau of George Ker of Samuelston) | -- | ||||||||||||||
| (((2))) | Elizabeth Ramsay | -- | |||||||||||||
| m. Sir Alexander Boswell, 3rd of Balmuto (d Flodden 09.09.1513) | -- | ||||||||||||||
| TSP (Ramsay, Viscount of Haddington) reports that the first proven family member of the Viscount was Robert Ramsay who obtained a charter from his cousin, Sir Alexander Ramsay of Dalhousie, in 1481. This suggests that the connection was as follows: | |||||||||||||||
| ((b)) | ?? Ramsay | ||||||||||||||
| (((1))) | Robert Ramsay of Edmerisden, later of Cockpen | ||||||||||||||
| (((2))) | Alexander Ramsay of Derchester (a 1485) | ||||||||||||||
| ((ii)) | Robert Ramsay of Swynisdene, 1st of Whitehill (b 1430) | ||||||||||||||
| ((iii)) | David Ramsay (parson of Foulden) | ||||||||||||||
| ((iv)) | George Ramsay of Halhouse and Likbernard (a 1459) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (?) Christina (dau of David de Valence) | |||||||||||||||
| ((v)) | William Ramsay | ||||||||||||||
| (ii) | James Ramsay (a 1367) | ||||||||||||||
| (iii) | Anne Ramsay possibly fits here? | ||||||||||||||
| m. John Bonar of Bonare (a 1380) | |||||||||||||||
| (B) | Sir William Ramsay of Inverleith | ||||||||||||||
| (i) | David Ramsay of Inverleith (a 1384) | ||||||||||||||
Main source(s): TSP (Dalhousie), BP1934 (Dalhousie)
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