NOTE BY PBG TO SUPPORT THE RELEASE OF CRICHTON06 & CRICHTON07 INTO THE 'PROPER' DATABASE ON 22.07.25. As indicated at the top of Crichton06, back in 2017 I did a lot of work to produce a DRAFT of Crichton06. However, what I produced was nowhere near good enough to launch into the 'proper' database. In late May 2025 I revisited the page and turned to 'RedBookScot', the impressive series of volumes by Gordon MacGregor (for more on which see under 'RedBookScot' on Sources & Acknowledgements). Volume 4 of that series, 2025 edition, contains articles on 9 branches of Crichtons of which 4 are relevant to Crichton06. The last one I turned to was that on 'Crichton of Cluny'. I saw that MacGregor had not determined precisely how that line connected to the rest of the family. Looking at what I had worked on back in 2017 led me to revisit 'Life of James Crichton of Cluny commonly called The Admirable Crichton' (Patrick Fraser Tytler, 1819). In looking for that in my files I came across 'Life of the Admirable Crichton Revisited' by Brian Lawrence Dreadon (#3 here) and realised that the author had kindly provided me with a copy of his book when he published it (online) in August 2018. I was embarrassed to discover that that copy had been submerged in one of those waves of distractions that too often make me lose sight of correspondence. I did not work on the book immediately and then, I must admit, completely forgot about it. At the beginning of June 2025 I was delighted to find the book again and to make contact with Brian again. I am pleased to confirm that his work supported almost of all what was given in 'RedBookScot'. The few differences in interpretation of some dates are not worthy of concern and the few additons (and some omissions) of younger children appear to have largely arisen from Dreadon's occasional inclusion of data from 'Balmerino and its Abbey' (James Campbell, 1867, p261+). The works of Gordon MacGregor & Brian Dreadon, and their friendly & useful correspondence on these families, enabled me to completely redo what I had on the Crichtons of Cranston Riddell and their cadets. My sincere thanks to them both. |
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'INTRODUCTORY NOTE' THAT WAS SHOWN AT THE TOP OF THE DRAFT PAGE THAT WAS RELEASED ON 03.08.17. IT IDENTIFIES MOST OF THE SOURCES THAT HAD BEEN USED FOR THAT DRAFT. NOTE THAT THIS NOTE HAS BEEN WHOLLY SUPERSEDED BY THE COMPLETE REVISION OF CRICHTON06. IT IS SHOWN 'FOR INTEREST ONLY'. RESEARCHERS OF THIS FAMILY MAY BE INTERESTED TO SEE HOW I APPROACHED THIS FAMILY BACK IN 2017 AND WHAT SOURCES I USED FOR THAT RESEARCH. This page is being used to pull together information on the Crichtons of Cranston Riddell (in Midlothian), Cluny (Fife), Cluny (Perthshire), Eliock (in Sanquhar, Dumfriesshire), Gilmerton, Lugton and Naughton. The information appears to include contradictions so we suspect that earlier researchers have sometimes been overly presumptuous on some issues. It appears that we still lack reliable information that could help us produce definitive pedigrees of these families. This leads us to be presumptuous ourselves but at least we report that to be the case! Note that: |
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NOTE SHOWN ON THE DRAFT PAGE (DATED 03.08.17) JUST ABOVE SIR ROBERT CRICHTON OF ELIOCK & CLUNY, THE LORD ADVOCATE. 'Senators of The College of Justice' (Bruton & Haig, 1836, p176+) identifies the Lord Advocate as "Supposed to have been son of another Robert Crichton". Showing the Lord Advocate as nephew rather than brother of Bishop George contradicts 'The Admirable Crichton' but the dates seem to support him being a generation later (see the note under Bishop George below). It is of course possible that the Lord Advocate was an (illegitimate?) son of Bishop Robert. That there may have been 2 Roberts of the same generation would not have been impossible. |
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NOTE SHOWN ON THE DRAFT PAGE (DATED 03.08.17) JUST BELOW GEORGE CRICHTON, BISHOP OF DUNKELD. The Admirable Crichton' (p10) reports that Bishop George "had already conveyed his lands and castle of Cluny to his brother the Lord Advocate; and, when he found himself becoming too old for the active duties of his see, he offered to resign his bishoprick in favour of another relation of the family, of the name of Robert Crichton." A note on that page then reports of that Robert Crichton that he "is called by Spottiswood, nephew to the bishop; but his lineage and history are extremely difficulty discovery. It is at least certain, that he is not the same person with Sir Robert Crichton of Cluny, second son of the Lord Advocate, and brother to the Admirable Crichton, because he is Bishop of Dunkeld in 1561, at which time Sir Robert Crichton was not born." As reported above, Wikipedia suggests that Robert Crichton, Bishop of Dunkeld, was indeed nephew of Bishop George. As Wikipedia may be relying on Spottiswood, and as Patrick Fraser Tytler (who prepared 'The Admirable Crichton') implies that Spottiswood may not be reliable on this, that throws some uncertainty on the issue. |
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NOTE SHOWN ON THE DRAFT PAGE (DATED 03.08.17) JUST BELOW DAVID CRICHTON WHO WAS SHOWN, AT THE TOP OF A LOWER SECTION, AS POSSIBLE FATHER OF PATRICK CRICHTON, 1ST OF THE CRICHTONS OF LUGTON. WE NO LONGER FOLLOW THAT SUGGESTION. NOTE THAT THIS WAS A DIFFERENT DAVID CRICHTON FROM THE DAVID OF CRANSTON RIDDELL WHO WAS AT THE TOP OF THE UPPER (MAIN) SECTION OF THE PAGE. Debrett's Peerage (vol 2 (Scotland) 1790, 'Earl of Dumfries', p108) identifies David, youngest son (by Elizabeth Fleming) of William Crichton, (3rd) Lord of Sanquhar, as ancestor of the Crichtons of Lugton. That is not consistent with the following as Lord William & Elizabeth Fleming married in March 1540/1, some years after their alleged grandson was born. However, as shown on Crichton03, we believe that Debrett was confused with the lordships and it is possible that David, ancestor of the Lugton line, was originally identified as son of the 3rd Lord, whom we identify as Robert who died in/before 1520. Provisionally and speculatively, we make that connection.. |
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