'Herbert01'Index links to: Lead / Letter
Families covered: Herbert of Raglan, Jenkin of Gwarinddu, Thomas of Llansaintffraid

                               
We used to show on this page the widely-reported 'fact' that the following Jenkin ap Adam was son of Adam Fitzherbert, a descendant of Herbert, Lord Chamberlain of King William Rufus. TCP (Pembroke, vol X page 400 note b) reports: "A spurious pedigree from Herbert the Chamberlain (of Henry I), who is given an equally false descent from Herbert, Count of Vermandois, is set forth by Nicholas, Counties and County Families of Wales, vol ii, pp. 776-77." On 12.02.07 we moved the pedigree of Adam FitzHerbert to FitzHerbert04 to make it clear that we do not wish to imply that we support that apparently-spurious connection.
Jenkin ap Adam of Gwarinddu
m. Gwenllian (dau of Sir Aaron ap Bleddyn)
1. William ap Jenkin = Herbert of Gwarinddu or Gwarindee (a 1350)
  m. Gwenllian (dau of Howel Ichon)
A. John or Jenkin ap Gwyllim of Gwarinddu (Wern-ddu) ancestor of Progers of Gwarinddu, Progers of Llanmaes, Morgans of Llanfihangel
  B. David ap Gwyllim of Chapell ancestor of Jones of Trostre, Morgans of Triley, Morgans of Arxton
  m. Anne (dau of Watkin Rees)
  C. Howell ap Gwyllim (a 1384)
  m. Maud (dau of Howell ap Rhys)
  i. Jenkin ap Howell
  m. Constance (dau of Roger Vychan ap Walter Says)
  a. David ap Jenkin of Treowen (d Banbury 1469)
  m. Margaret Huntley (dau of Thomas Huntley of Treowen)
  D. Sir Thomas ap Gwyllim (bur 08.07.1438)
  m. Maud Morley (dau of Sir John Morley of Raglan Castle)
  i. Philip ap Thomas of Llansaintffraid (d 09.11.1460, 4th son?)
  m. Joanne Blethin (d 07.06.1458, dau of Thomas Blethin of Pentre)
  a. David of Llansaintffraid (d 19.12.1510)
  m. Katharine Vaughan (d 26.03.1520, dau of Sir Roger Vaughan)
(1) Thomas of Llansaintffraid (d 03.04.1537) had issue
  m. Jane (d 13.08.1533, dau of John ap Thomas of Treowen)
  ii. Even ap Thomas ancestor of Gwyns of Raglan, Raglans of Carnllwyd
  a. John Harbert (Herbert) alias Ragland possibly of this generation
  iii. David ap Thomas ancestor of Hughes of Cilwych or Caelwch or Killough
  iv Howell ap Thomas of Perthir (eldest son?) ancestor of Powells of Perthir
  m. Catherine (dau of Gruno ap Ivor)
a. William Vychan of Llanrothal (3rd son)
  m. _ Pye (dau of John Pye of The Mynde)
  v Sir William ap Thomas or Herbert of Raglan Castle (d 1446)
  BE1883 reports that Sir William had 2 wives: Gwladys and Margaret. BLG1952 also shows 2 wives: Elizabeth and Gladys. Provisionally we show 3 wives as follows:
  m1. Elizabeth Bluet (d 24.05.1419, dau of Sir John Bluet of Daglingworth, widow of Sir James Berkeley and Thomas ap Harry)
  m2. Gwladys (dau of Sir David 'Gam' ap Llewelyn ap Hywel ap Einion Sais, widow of Sir Roger Vaughan of Bredwardine)
  a. Sir William Herbert of Raglan, 1st Earl of Pembroke (b c1423, d 27.07.1469)
  m. Anne Devereux (dau of Sir Walter Devereux of Bodenham and Whitchurch)
b. Thomas Herbert of Troy House (d before 1482)
  c. Sir Richard Herbert of Colebrooke or Coldbrook (d 27.07.1469)
  m. Margaret (dau of Sir Thomas ap Griffith ap Nicholas of Carmarthen)
  d. John Herbert (a 1469)
  e. Elizabeth Herbert or Thomas
  m. Sir Henry or Harry Stradling of St. Donat's
  f. Margaret Herbert
  Margaret is shown by BE1883 as daughter of Margaret, by BLG1952 (which does not mention her mother Margaret) as daughter of Gladys. Having previously favoured the former, we now follow the latter which is supported by Visitation (Michael Powell Siddons (1996, 'Visitations by the Heralds in Wales'), South Wales and Herefordshire, 1531, 'Herbert, Earls of Pembroke', p100) though that also does not mention Margaret.
  m. Sir Henry Woogan or Wogan of Wiston
  m3. Margaret (dau of Thomas ap Griffith)
  g. Maud Herbert
  Maud is not mentioned by BE1883. BLG1952, which does not mention her mother Margaret, shows her as daughter by Gladys but as younger than her sister Margaret.
  m. Howel of Blaina Gwent
  E. Gwenllian
  m. Meurig ap Howel Fychan of Penrhos Ffwrdios

Main source(s): BLG1952 (Herbert of Upper Helmsley of Westow), BE1883 (Herbert of Herbert, Chepstow, Pembroke and Huntingdon)
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