'Orpen1'
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Families covered: Orpen of Ardtully, Orpen of Killowen
| Commoners reports that the "family of Orpen is of remote antiquity, and is stated to derive its descent from Erpen, second son of Varnacker ... son of Meroveus, and grandson of Theodorick, son of Clovis, King of France". Commoners refers to a Robert d'Erpen who accompanied the Conqueror to England and "fixed his residence at Erpingham, in the county of Norfolk, (where some of the Erpen family are supposed to have settled so early as the time of Edward the Confessor)." Identified as "a lineal descendant of the Erpingham family" was ... | |||||||||||||||
| Francis Orpen | |||||||||||||||
| m. Agnes Edwards | |||||||||||||||
| 1. | Sir John Orpen of Farleigh, Somerset (b 1520) | ||||||||||||||
| A. | Robert Orpen (b c1553) | ||||||||||||||
| m. _ Stevenson (dau of Colonel _ Stevenson or Stephenson) | |||||||||||||||
| i. | Richard Orpen | ||||||||||||||
| This generation is omitted by BIFR1976 but is shown by Commoners whilst BLG1886 (Orpen of Ardtully), which starts with the next Robert, suggests that Robert was son of Richard "a Royalist, who fell at Naseby". We include this generation simply because the dates make it look likely that there was another generation at this point. However, it should (perhaps) be viewed with some caution. | |||||||||||||||
| m. Mary Ley (dau of Henry Ley of Teffont Ewyas, sister of James, 1st Earl of Marlborough) | |||||||||||||||
| a. | Robert Orpen of Killorglin, co. Kerry (b c1637, d 1686) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Lucy Chichester ("a relation of Sir Arthur Chichester of Carrickfergus") | |||||||||||||||
| (1) | John Orpen of London, later of The Mead in Farleigh (b 1652, d 1733) | ||||||||||||||
| (A) | William Orpen (bpt 1715) | ||||||||||||||
| (2) | Robert Orpen of Rotherhide, Kent (b 1644, d 1699, pastry cook) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (1699) Mary Mew | |||||||||||||||
| (3) | Richard Orpen of The White House, later of Killowen (co. Kerry) (b 1652, d 1716) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (before 1668) Isabella Palmer (dau of Rev. Thomas Palmer of Knocktemple) | |||||||||||||||
| (A) | Thomas Orpen of Killowen (d 21.09.1767, rector of Kenmare) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (04.04.1722) Agnes Herbert (dau of Arthur Herbert of Currens) | |||||||||||||||
| (i) | Richard Orpen of Killowen & Frankfort (b 1727, d 1770, rector of Valentia) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Mary Hutchinson (d 1804, dau of Matthew Hutchinson, widow of James French) | |||||||||||||||
| (a) | Richard Thomas Orpen, Sheriff of co. Cork (d unm 1812) | ||||||||||||||
| (b) | Mary Orpen (d 1809) | ||||||||||||||
| m1. (30.03.1780) John Moore Travers of Ballynamona & Fir Grove (d 1789, Captain, son of Boyle of Ballynamona & Bandon) | |||||||||||||||
| m2. (c1798) Wiliam Mordaunt Maitland (d 24.06.1841, General, son of 7th Earl of Lauderdale) | |||||||||||||||
| (c) | Charlotte Orpen (d 1848) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (10.1790) Thomas Quin (d 1829) | |||||||||||||||
| (d) | Sophia Orpen (d 1854) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (1797) Philip Oliver Ellard (Captain) | |||||||||||||||
| (ii) | Arthur Orpen | ||||||||||||||
| m. "a French lady" | |||||||||||||||
| (a) | child (d young) | ||||||||||||||
| (iii) | Thomas Orpen (d 1781) | ||||||||||||||
| (iv) | George Orpen (d c1784) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (01.08.1759) Lucy Bland (dau of Judge Nathaniel Bland) | |||||||||||||||
| (a) | Lucy Orpen | ||||||||||||||
| m. Alexander Strange (Captain) | |||||||||||||||
| (b)+ | other issue (d unm) - Thomas (d 1829, Captain), Henry Francis (d Talavera 1809, Major) | ||||||||||||||
| (v) | Edward Orpen of Killowen (b 1741, d 1817, Major) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Eleanor Connor (d 22.03.1839) | |||||||||||||||
| (a) | Henry Orpen (d 03.1838) had issue | ||||||||||||||
| m1. (01.07.1809) Eleanor Swanton (d 1811, dau of William Swanton of Ballydehob) | |||||||||||||||
| m2. (sp?) Elizabeth Fairclough | |||||||||||||||
| (b) | Abraham Edward Orpen of Cork (b 1779, d 1836) had issue | ||||||||||||||
| m1. (1807) Elizabeth Wall (dsp, dau of Archdeacon _ Wall of Limerick) | |||||||||||||||
| m2. (1828) Martha Chatterton (d 1857, dau of Sir James Chatterton, 1st Bart) | |||||||||||||||
| (c) | Cherry Orpen | ||||||||||||||
| m. Stephen Hutchinson | |||||||||||||||
| (d) | Margaret Orpen | ||||||||||||||
| m. (1805) Abraham Palmer of Ashgrove (d 1806, cousin) | |||||||||||||||
| (e) | Sarah Orpen (b 1792) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (1808) Richard Morphy (son of John of Tralee) | |||||||||||||||
| (f) | Dorcas Orpen (b 1794) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (1816) Redmond Moriarty, later in Australia (RN) | |||||||||||||||
| (g) | Anne Orpen | ||||||||||||||
| m. (1816) Merrion Moriarty, later of Sydney, Australia (RN) | |||||||||||||||
| (h) | Elizabeth Orpen (b 1799, d 1876) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (1827) Massy Hutchinson Herbert of Roughty Lodge (Captain, son of Arthur) | |||||||||||||||
| (i)+ | other issue (d unm) - Edward, Lucy (d 1805), Agnes (d 1846),Isabella (d 1840) | ||||||||||||||
| (vi) | John Herbert Orpen of Cork City (b 1743, d 04.1799) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Hannah Hutchinson (d 1808, dau of Emmanuel Hutchinson of Codrum) | |||||||||||||||
| (a) | Thomas Herbert Orpen of Dublin (b 1775, d 31.03.1845) had issue | ||||||||||||||
| m. (1804) Penelope Thompson (d 11.02.1864, dau of David Thompson of Oatlands) | |||||||||||||||
| (b) | John Emanuel Orpen of Kanturk (b 25.11.1779, d 12.06.1852, Rev.) had issue | ||||||||||||||
| m. Frances Ashe (d 1839, dau of Richard Ashe of Coolehane) | |||||||||||||||
| (c) | Emanuel Hutchinson Orpen of Mount Tallant (b 08.06.1782, dsp 11.02.1863) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (1831) Letitia Bateman (dau of Rowland Bateman of Oak Park) | |||||||||||||||
| (d) | Margaret Lucy Orpen (b 10.07.1786, dsp 1862) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (03.12.1835) Henry Odlum (d 1840, Captain) | |||||||||||||||
| (e)+ | other issue (d unm) - Hannah Agnes (b 09.05.1777, d 1849), Frances (d 03.07.1866), Sophia (d 04.06.1808) | ||||||||||||||
| (vii) | Francis Orpen (b 1747, d 1805, vicar of Kilgarvan, rector of Dungourney) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (21.03.1780) Susannah Millerd (d 13.03.1830, dau/coheir of Hugh Millerd of Monard by Rebecca, dau of Thomas Newenham of Coolmore) | |||||||||||||||
| (a) | Sir Richard John Theodore Orpen of Ardtully (b 06.11.1788, d 04.05.1876, 2nd son) had issue | ||||||||||||||
| m. (17.05.1819) Elizabeth Stack (dau of Rev. Richard Stack by Mary Baldwin of Rahaduff) | |||||||||||||||
| (b) | Charles Edward Herbert Orpen (b 31.10.1791, d 20.04.1856, Rev., to South Africa) had issue | ||||||||||||||
| m. (10.12.1823) Alicia Frances Sirr (d 04.12.1869, dau of Major Henry Charles Sirr (Town Mayor of Dublin), widow of Rev. Connolly Coane of Bath) | |||||||||||||||
| (c) | Emilia Grace Caroline Orpen (b 1782, dsp) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (1816) John Gordon of Dublin | |||||||||||||||
| (d) | Rebecca Newenham Millerd Orpen (b 1784, d 07.03.1875) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (31.01.1805) Henry Gage Morris (d 24.11.1852, Rear Admiral, son of Colonel Roger of Yorkshire) | |||||||||||||||
| (e)+ | other issue - Arthur George (b 1787, dsp 25.04.1813), Susannah Maria Frances (b 1781?, d unm 06.02.1853), Cornelia (b 1789, d unm 1815) | ||||||||||||||
| (viii) | Cherry or Charity Orpen | ||||||||||||||
| Commoners names Cherry's husband as James Bland, son of Nathaniel of Derriquin Castle, but BIFR1976 identifies him as ... | |||||||||||||||
| m. James Bland of Ballybog (vicar of Killarney, son of Francis of Ballybog) | |||||||||||||||
| (ix) | Lucy Orpen (dsp) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (c1775) Conway Blennerhasett (d 1805, rector of Ballyseedy, son of Edward of Rossheigh) | |||||||||||||||
| (x) | Agnes Orpen | ||||||||||||||
| m. (c1775) Walter Stewart (rector of Innisheel) | |||||||||||||||
| (xi)+ | other issue -Isabelle, Mary, Margaret Lucy (d unm) | ||||||||||||||
| (B) | Richard Orpen of Ardtully, co. Kerry (b c1698) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (c1734) Grace Riggs (dau of John Riggs of Riggsdale) | |||||||||||||||
| (i) | Richard Orpen of Ardtully (b 1736) | ||||||||||||||
| m1. (06.11.1766) Anna Townsend (dau of Horace Townsend of Bridgemount) | |||||||||||||||
| (a) | Richard Orpen, later Orpen-Townsend, of Ardtully & Bridgemount (b 1771, d 1849) had issue (1 dau) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (1811) Anna Mullins (dau of 2nd Lord Ventry) | |||||||||||||||
| (b) | Horace Townsend Orpen of Watersend Lodge had issue (1 dau) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Elizabeth Kite (dau of Giles Kite of Cork) | |||||||||||||||
| (c) | Edward Orpen of Clontagh, co. Kerry, later ofIsland Lodge, Dunkerron (b 1778) had issue | ||||||||||||||
| m. (c1800) Maria Crumpe (dau of Daniel Crumpe by Grace Orpen, cousin) | |||||||||||||||
| (d) | Samuel Orpen of Woodville, Kilgarvan, co. Kerry (d 1826) had issue | ||||||||||||||
| m. (05.08.1805) Bridget Sophia Hungerford (d 10.1830, dau of Thomas Hungerford of TheIsland & Fox Hall) | |||||||||||||||
| (e) | Henry Richard Orpen of Gortagas & Bridgeville Park (d 15.10.1838, Captain) had issue | ||||||||||||||
| m. (23.02.1805) Letitia Becher (dau of Richard Becher of Hollybrook House) | |||||||||||||||
| (f) | Anne Orpen (dsp) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (06.07.1791) Richard Tonson Rye of Rye Court | |||||||||||||||
| (g) | Alice Orpen | ||||||||||||||
| m. (1801) William Meredith of Dicksgrove | |||||||||||||||
| m2. _ Laplant (dsp) | |||||||||||||||
| m3. (1794) Alice Nettles (dsp, dau of John Ryves Nettles of Toureen & Beare Forest) | |||||||||||||||
| (ii) | Grace Orpen | ||||||||||||||
| m. Daniel Crumpe of Barleymount (cousin) | |||||||||||||||
| (iii) | Agnes Orpen | ||||||||||||||
| m. Thomas Wright of Glengarriff | |||||||||||||||
| (iv) | Margaret Orpen (d unm) | ||||||||||||||
| (C) | Robert Orpen (b c1698) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Eliza Smith | |||||||||||||||
| (i) | Sarah Orpen omitted by BIFR1976 | ||||||||||||||
| m. _ King of Killarney (Major) | |||||||||||||||
| (ii)+ | other issue - Richard, Lovel, Mary (d unm) | ||||||||||||||
| (D) | Abraham Orpen of Kenmare, later in Jamaica (dsp before 22.12.1750, 5th son) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Judith | |||||||||||||||
| (E) | Sarah Orpen | ||||||||||||||
| m. _ King of Kilarney (Major) | |||||||||||||||
| (F) | Isabella Orpen | ||||||||||||||
| m. _ Wright of Glengarriff | |||||||||||||||
| (G) | Mary Orpen (b c1690, dsp 1763) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Raymond Crosbie (son of Patrick of Ballyheigue) | |||||||||||||||
| (H)+ | other issue (d unm) - George (d before 08.1744), Raymond of Clontough (d c1764) | ||||||||||||||
| (4) | Rachel Orpen | ||||||||||||||
| m. John Maybury | |||||||||||||||
| (5) | Dorcas Orpen | ||||||||||||||
| m. Francis (or Thomas) Crumpe of Barleymount called Thomas by BIFR1976 | |||||||||||||||
| (6) | Margaret Orpen | ||||||||||||||
| m. Robert Bowen | |||||||||||||||
| b. | John Orpen of Bradford (d 1684, cooper) | ||||||||||||||
| c. | Henry Orpen of London (d 1679) | ||||||||||||||
| (1) | issue - Henry, Jane | ||||||||||||||
| B. | Henry Orpen of Fisherton-Anger, Salisbury (dspm 1613) | ||||||||||||||
Main source(s): BIFR1976 (Orpen), Commoners (vol IV, Orpen of Glanerough)
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