'Dethick2'Index links to: Lead / Letter
Families covered: Dethick of Breadsall (Birdsall), Dethick of Newhall, Dethick of Sagebury

John or Roger or William Dethicke
As mentioned at the continuation, there is confusion as to the name of the husband of Margaret Meynell. Some web sites show him as the first of Newhall, Derbyshire, but neither the Visitations nor Gregory King give any designation for him.
m. Margaret Meynell (dau/co-heir of Raffe Meynell of Long Meynell)
1. Thomas Dethick of Newhall, Derbyshire
  Visitation (Worcestershire) follows the line of Thomas's brother John and only shows Thomas as father of William father of Thomas. Visitation (Derbyshire) shows Thomas as father of William (m. _ Francis of Ticknoll) father of Thomas (m. Margery Kynnersley) father of William (m. Anne Bradbourne). Provisionally we follow Gregory King who provides the following.
  m. Elizabeth Kynardesly (dau of Thomas Kynardesly or Kinnersley of Loxley)
  A. William Dethick of Newhall
m. _ Thicknall (dau of Francis Thicknall or dau of _ Francis of Ticknoll?)
  i. Thomas Dethick of Newhall
  m. Margery Hawley (dau of Humphrey Hawley of Stafford)
  a. William Dethick of Newhall
  m. Anne Bradborne (dau of Humphrey Bradborne of Hoghe)
(1) Thomas Dethick of Newhall
  m. Anne Roleston (dau of Thomas Roleston of ye Ley)
  (A) Humphrey Dethick of Newhall (a 1569)
  m. Elizabeth Longford (dau of Sir Ralph Longford of Longford)
  (i) Francis Dethick 'of Newhall' (dsp)
  m. Katherine Greseley (dau of Sir Thomas Greseley of Drakelow)
  (ii) Katherine Dethick
  m. Alexander Reddish of Reddish (dspm 1613)
  (B) Agnes Dethick
  m. _ Barbor of Flashbrook
(C) Elizabeth Dethick
  m. Rafe Leeson
  (D)+ other issue - Robert, Helen
  (2) William Dethick had issue
  m. ?? Alsop (dau of ?? Alsop of Alsop-le-Dale)
  (3) Margery Dethick
  m. Robert Milward of Eaton
  (4) Dorothy Dethick
m. Thomas Gresley
  (5) daughter
  m. Dyonise (Dionisius?) Cramphorne
  (6) Margaret Dethick
  m1. (sp) Thomas Fynderne
  m2. Philip Okeover (d 1604)
  (7) Anne Dethickk
  m. Richard Rollesley
  (8) Emma Dethick (d 30.04.1606)
  m. Ralph Sacheverell of Barton
  (9) Elizabeth Dethick
  m. Ralph Leigh of Egginton
  (10) Anne Dethick (2nd)
m. Thomas Leigh of Egginton (d 18.07.1600)
  (11)+ other issue - Edward (had issue), Humfrey (had issue)
  b. George Dethick
  (1) George Dethick
  c. John Dethick (priest)
  d. Anne Dethick
  m. John Kniveton of Mercaston
  e. Elizabeth Dethick
  Visitation show Elizabeth m1. Roger Mynors of Treag with added (in italics) m2. Thomas Kniveton, alias Gilbert of Langley. However, this was probably the Elizabeth who married ...
  m. Thomas Mynors of Treago (d 04.07.1539)
  f. Hellen Dethick
  m1. Robert Savage of Barton Park
  m2. Robert Revell of Shirland
  B. John Dethick of Sagebury, Worcestershire
  m. Jane
  i. Richard Dethick of Sagebury
  m. Anne
a. Richard Dethick of Sagebury
  m. Elizabeth Newport (dau of John Newport of Droitwich)
  (1) William Dethick of Sagebury
  m. Jane Bray (dau of William Bray of Durdall)
  Visitation (Worcestershire) finishes showing the children of William & Jane as follows.
  (A) George Dethick, last of Sagebury
  m. _ Tuke of Kent
  (B) Dorothy Dethick possibly the Dorothy who married ...
  m. Gilbert Andrews of Hambury
  (C) other issue - Elizabeth, Ciceley, Constance
  b.+ other issue - William, Gilbert, John, Joyce, Elizabeth, Fortune



William Dethick
m. Cicely Curzon (dau/heir of Thomas Curzon of Birdsall)
1. William Dethick of Birdsall or Beardsall, Derbyshire
  Visitation shows Birdsall throughout except in the title, where Breadsall is used. Somewhat arbitrarily, we use Breadsall after just one more generation.
  A. William Dethick of Birdsall or Breadsall
  We are a little concerned at the number of different generations shown by Visitation. However, without more dates it would be presumptuous of us to omit any.
  i. John Dethick of Breadsall
  m. _ Sale
  a. John Dethick of Breadsall
  m. Margaret Rollesley (dau of John Rollesley of Rollesley)
  (1) John Dethick of Breadsall
  m. Joan Foljambe (dau/coheir of Roger Foljambe)
  (A) John Dethick of Breadsall
  m1. Mary Illingworth (dau of Richard Illingworth of Stanford by Elizabeth Broughton)
(i) John Dethick of Breadsall (d 06.10.1548-9)
  m. Lucy Barrington (dau of Sir Nicholas Barrington of Essex)
  (a) John Dethick of Breadsall (b 11.1523, d 13.06.1593-4)
  m1/2. Frances Powtrell (dau of Thomas Powtrell of West Hallom by Dorothy, dau/heir of William Bassett of Muskham)
  Visitation (Derby) ends with this generation, showing John as m. Frances Powtrell. It may have been John who also married ...
  m2/1. Emma or Ellen Lowe of Denby
  Probably of this generation, but (if so) by which marriage is not known, was ...
  ((1)) Dorothy Dethick (b 13.06.1589)
  m. John Harpur of Swarkston & Breadsall
  (b) Elizabeth Dethick
  m. _ Speed
  (c) Mary Dethick
  m. _ Topley
(d) Anne Dethick
  m. _ Power of Oxfordshire
  (e)+ other issue - Edward, Lancelot
  (ii) Margaret Dethick
  m. Henry Curzon
  (iii) Anne Dethick
  m. Mark Draycott of Loscoe
  (iv)+ other issue - Richard (priest of Breadsall), William, Ralph, Thomas (dsp), Anthony (dsp), Henry (dsp)
  m2. Elizabeth Okeover (dau of Humfry (sb Philip?) Okeover of Okeover)
  (x) Isabel Dethick
  (B) Margaret Dethick
  m. Richard Birde of Lockhaw
  (C)+ other issue - Richard (dsp), William (priest)

Main source(s):
(1) For upper section : Visitation (Derbyshire, 1569+1611, 'Dethick of New Hall'), Visitation (Worcestershire, 1569, 'Dethicke'), an extract entitled 'Pedigrees and Heraldic Notes of Gregory King' (pp274-275), from MGH (NS5, vol 9 (1935-7)), which was kindly provided to us by a contributor (CV, 27.10.13)
(2) For lower section : Visitation (Derbyshire, 1569+1611, 'Dethick of Breadsall')
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