'Gilbert02'
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Families covered: Gilbert of Eastbourne, Gilbert of Whitcombe, Gilbert of Woolavington (Wollavington)
| Commoners reports that the following family is "a cadet of the House of Gilbert, of Compton Castle" (see Gilbert01). | |||||||||||||||
| _ Gilbert | |||||||||||||||
| m. _ Whettenhall | |||||||||||||||
| 1. | _ Gilbert | ||||||||||||||
| m. _ Iden | |||||||||||||||
| A. | Thomas Gilbert of Kent the first mentioned by BLG1952 | ||||||||||||||
| m. Elizabeth Waller (dau of William Waller of Groombridge, sister of the mother of Sir Nicholas Parker) | |||||||||||||||
| i. | John Gilbert of Willingdon, Sussex (bur 16.04.1627) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (c04.1600) Joane Wade of Wilmington | |||||||||||||||
| a. | Nicholas Gilbert of Bletchington or Blechington, Sussex (b 18.12.1603, d 04.03.1677) | ||||||||||||||
| m1. (03.11.1628) Anne Parker (bpt 25.06.1609, bur 15.03.1652, dau/heir of John Parker of Foington) | |||||||||||||||
| (1) | Thomas Gilbert of Eastbourne (b 23.04.1634, d 14.03.1704) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (23.02.1670) Mary Foster (d 05.12.1675, dau of Thomas Foster of Iden) | |||||||||||||||
| (A) | Nicholas Gilbert of Eastbourne (b 17.02.1672, d 22.05.1713) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (1695) Mary Eversfield (dau of Nicholas Eversfield of Carlton) | |||||||||||||||
| (i) | Nicholas Gilbert of Eastbourne (b 20.11.1706, d 29.07.1774, 2nd son) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (20.06.1732) Susanna Acton (d 30.06.1767, dau of John Acton of Hope) | |||||||||||||||
| (a) | Nicholas Gilbert (b 09.08.1734, d 19.04.1797) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Katherine Barton | |||||||||||||||
| (b) | Charles Gilbert of Eastbourne (b 20.05.1736, dsp 01.02.1816) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Sarah Stamford (d 1769) | |||||||||||||||
| (c) | Thomas Gilbert of Lewes, Sussex (b 06.10.1740, d 15.04.1782) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (05.12.1771) Anne Cossum (d 14.07.1787, dau of John Cossum of Hastings) | |||||||||||||||
| ((1)) | Mary Anne Gilbert of Eastbourne (b 29.02.1776, d 26.04.1845) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (18.04.1808) Davies Giddy of Tredrea, later Gilbert of Eastbourne (d 24.12.1839) | |||||||||||||||
| (d) | Mary Gilbert (b 23.03.1732, dsp 17.04.1811) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Rev. Henry Lushington | |||||||||||||||
| (e) | Susanna Gilbert (b 27.03.1743, d unm 16.03.1816) | ||||||||||||||
| (ii) | Olive Gilbert (b 01.07.1703, d 09.12.1783) | ||||||||||||||
| m. John Winton | |||||||||||||||
| (iii)+ | other issue - Thomas (b 29.01.1699, d 09.02.1699), Elizabeth (b 09.09.1701) | ||||||||||||||
| (B) | Mary Gilbert (b 21.121671) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (12.09.1689) John Weeks of Westfield | |||||||||||||||
| (2) | Benjamin Gilbert (b 09.04.1643) had issue | ||||||||||||||
| m1/2/3. ?? | |||||||||||||||
| (3) | Nicholas Gilbert (b 17.04.1648) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Anne Weeks | |||||||||||||||
| (4) | Anne Gilbert (b c1631) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Jo. Willard | |||||||||||||||
| (5) | Elizabeth Gilbert (b c1632) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Thomas Webb | |||||||||||||||
| (6)+ | other issue - William, Edward, Martha | ||||||||||||||
| m2. Elizabeth Chilly (dau of John Chilly of Heathfield) | |||||||||||||||
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| Various web sites refer to certain of the following family as being 'of Compton', implying a connection with the family shown on Gilbert01. However, VCH (Somerset, vol 8, Woolavington) provides the following descent for Richard, father of Joan who m. Roger Pym, which suggests that there may have been no connection at all. Unfortunately, that descent contradicts what is shown in the Visitations which, provisionally, we give precedence to. VCH starts with 2 brothers, son of ... | |||||||||||||||
| ?? | |||||||||||||||
| 1. | Gilbert le Waleys of Woolavington, Somerset (d c1298, rector of Huntspill) | ||||||||||||||
| A. | Agnes | ||||||||||||||
| m. Roger of Mucheldever (d 1336?) | |||||||||||||||
| 2. | Hugh (d 1280) | ||||||||||||||
| A. | John Gilbert of Woolavington | ||||||||||||||
| i. | John Gilbert of Woolavington (a 1344) | ||||||||||||||
| a. | Gilbert Gilbert (a 1380) | ||||||||||||||
| (1) | John Gilbert (dsp before 1409) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Joan (d 1409) | |||||||||||||||
| (2) | John Gilbert (d(sp?)1419?, 2nd of the name) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Margaret | |||||||||||||||
| (A) | Richard Gilbert (dsp) | ||||||||||||||
| (3) | Richard Gilbert (d 1443?) ## see alternative ancestry below | ||||||||||||||
| m. Eleanor (m2. John Davy of Bridgwater) | |||||||||||||||
| (A) | Joan Gilbert, heiress of Woolavingtion | ||||||||||||||
| m. Roger Pym | |||||||||||||||
| The Visitations also start with 2 brothers, son of ... | |||||||||||||||
| ?? Gilbert named John in some web sites | |||||||||||||||
| 1. | William Gilbert (dsp) shown by Weaver as Treasurer of the House 10EIII (1336-7) | ||||||||||||||
| 2. | John Gilbert shown by Visitation (1623) as Treasurer of the Household | ||||||||||||||
| A. | Richard Gilbert | ||||||||||||||
| i. | John Gilbert | ||||||||||||||
| m. Alice Spencer (dau of John Spencer) | |||||||||||||||
| a. | John Gilbert | ||||||||||||||
| m. Christian (dau of John) family name given as Walter by Weaver but as Walker by Visitation (1623) | |||||||||||||||
| (1) | John Gilbert had descendants in Devon | ||||||||||||||
| m. Joan Hake (dau of John Hake of the Wight) | |||||||||||||||
| (A) | Robert Gilbert | ||||||||||||||
| Robert is shown by Visitation (Somerset, 1623, Portman) as 'of Camell' and (from the note below on his apparent son Anthony) was probably the Robert 'of Corton Denham' who d 1537. | |||||||||||||||
| m1. Elizabeth Wadham | |||||||||||||||
| m2. Margaret Baumfield | |||||||||||||||
| (i) | George Gilbert (b c1497) | ||||||||||||||
| m. _ Kricklad (dau of Kricklad of Kricklad (Cricklade?)) | |||||||||||||||
| (a) | John Gilbert of Witcombe, Somerset (d 1557) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Anne Horsler (dau of John Horsler) | |||||||||||||||
| ((1)) | Gregory (or George) Gilbert (a 1591) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Anne Keynes of Compton Pauncefoot | |||||||||||||||
| ((A)) | Henry Gilbert | ||||||||||||||
| ((i)) | Dorothy Gilbert | ||||||||||||||
| ((B)) | John Gilbert (4th son) | ||||||||||||||
| ((i)) | Ann Gilbert | ||||||||||||||
| ((C)) | Morrice Gilbert of Whitcombe (youngest/7th son) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (21.05.1588) Elizabeth Lyggon (dau of Richard Lyggon of Madresfield, m2. Nicholas Smyth, Bishop of Gloucester) | |||||||||||||||
| ((i))+ | issue - Robert (bpt 22.06.1589), William (bpt 03.07.1590) | ||||||||||||||
| ((D))+ | other issue - George, James, Edward, Gilbert | ||||||||||||||
| ((2))+ | other issue - James, Robert, Grace, Ann, Dorothy, Jane | ||||||||||||||
| (b) | daughter | ||||||||||||||
| m. John Lyte of Lytescary | |||||||||||||||
| (ii) | Anthony Gilbert of East Coker & Corton Denham (b c1499, dsp 1555, MP) | ||||||||||||||
| Anthony is not mentioned in the Visitations but is identified by HoP ('Anthony Gilbert') as "2nd s. of Robert Gilbert (d. 1537) of Corton Denham by Margaret, da. of one Bamfield". | |||||||||||||||
| m. Anne | |||||||||||||||
| (2) | William Gilbert | ||||||||||||||
| Weaver identifies William's wife as _ Manell (possibly Mauncell) whilst Visitation (1623) identifies her as _ Mayvell. | |||||||||||||||
| (A) | John Gilbert | ||||||||||||||
| m. Elizabeth Fitzjames (dau of John Fitzjames or FitzJames) | |||||||||||||||
| (i) | John Gilbert 'of Compton' | ||||||||||||||
| m. Christian Baskett (dau of William Baskett of Dulish) | |||||||||||||||
| (a) | Elizabeth Gilbert | ||||||||||||||
| m. Sir William Portman (d 1555, Lord Chief Justice) | |||||||||||||||
| (B) | Christian Gilbert | ||||||||||||||
| m. John Pike | |||||||||||||||
| (C) | Alice Gilbert | ||||||||||||||
| m. John Porter | |||||||||||||||
| (3) | Jane Gilbert | ||||||||||||||
| m. Robert Gray | |||||||||||||||
| (4) | Agnes Gilbert | ||||||||||||||
| m. Richard Gebar | |||||||||||||||
| (5) | Alice Gilbert | ||||||||||||||
| m. Thomas Moore of Dorset | |||||||||||||||
| b. | Robert Gilbert of Witcombe, Somerset possibly fits here | ||||||||||||||
| We have yet to see reliable evidence as to how Robert, father of Elizabeth, fitted into this family but it seems highly likely that he did. We have seen him described as 'of Corton Denham' which might equate him with the Robert shown above as m1. Elizabeth Wadham m2. Margaret Baumfield but the dates suggest that Elizabeth must have been of the same generation (or an earlier generation) as that Robert. What we show makes Elizabeth's 1st husband her 2nd cousin. | |||||||||||||||
| (1) | Elizabeth Gilbert (coheir) | ||||||||||||||
| m1. Alexander Pym of Brymmore (d 1492) | |||||||||||||||
| VCH (reference as above) reports that Elizabeth, widow of Alexander Pym, married ... | |||||||||||||||
| m2. Sir Anthony Willoughby | |||||||||||||||
| ii. | Richard Gilbert of Wollavington (Woolavington), Somerset ## see alternative ancestry above | ||||||||||||||
| In the entry on the Gilbert family, Weaver shows Richard's wife to be Ellenor, sister of William Doddisham. In the entry on the Pymme family she is identified as ... | |||||||||||||||
| m. Elinor Doddisham (dau of William Doddisham, sister/coheir of John) | |||||||||||||||
| a. | Richard Gilbert (dsp) | ||||||||||||||
| b. | Joane Gilbert | ||||||||||||||
| m. Roger Pym of Brimore | |||||||||||||||
| B. | John Gilbert | ||||||||||||||
| C. | Isabell Gilbert | ||||||||||||||
| m. Adam Huddy | |||||||||||||||
Main source(s):
(1) For upper section (uploaded 09.05.09) : BLG1952 (Davies-Gilbert formerly of Eastbourne) with support from Commoners (vol 1, Gilbert of Tredrea and East Bourn), Visitation (Sussex, 1530+1634, Gilbert), Visitation (Sussex, 1662, Gilbert of Blechington)
(2) For lower section (uploaded 09.05.09, revised 03.04.13) : Visitation (Frederic William Weaver (1885), Somerset, 1551+1575+1591, Gilbert of Whitcombe or Widcombe in Corton Denham), Visitation (Somerset, 1623, Portman) with input as reported above
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