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| This section first uploaded 10.03.11. | |||||||||||||||
| Burrows starts this pedigree (p324) with brother & sister, noting that the family was of Drayton (Hampshire), Bromley (Dorset) & Ash Herbert (Sussex). | |||||||||||||||
| ?? de Caune | |||||||||||||||
| 1. | Sir Herbert de Caune (a temp Henry III who r. 1216-1272) | ||||||||||||||
| A. | Baldwin de Caune (dsp) | ||||||||||||||
| B. | Herbert de Caune of Drayton (d 1294) | ||||||||||||||
| i.+ | issue - Margery (dsp), Johanna | ||||||||||||||
| B. | Eufemia de Caune | ||||||||||||||
| m. ?? | |||||||||||||||
| i. | Margery | ||||||||||||||
| m. John de Roches (d 1312) @1@ below | |||||||||||||||
| 2. | Sibilla de Caune | ||||||||||||||
| m. Sir William de Dummer (a 1216) | |||||||||||||||
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| This section first uploaded 10.03.11. | |||||||||||||||
| William de Roches (Rupibus) of Anjou possibly father of ... | |||||||||||||||
| 1. | Peter de Roches (Rupibus), Sheriff of Hampshire, Bishop of Winchester, Chief Justiciar, Lord Chamberlain (d 09.02.1238) | ||||||||||||||
| Some details on Peter come from Wikipedia. | |||||||||||||||
| 2. | ?? de Roches (Rupibus) | ||||||||||||||
| A. | Geoffrey de Roches (d before 1253) | ||||||||||||||
| The following is supported by Visitation (Hampshire, 1530+1575+1622-34, Brocas). | |||||||||||||||
| m. Emma (dau of William FitzRoger of Roche Court in North Fareham & Bradley, sister/heir of _) | |||||||||||||||
| i. | Martin de Roches of Steventon, etc. (dsp 1277) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Lucy (a 1285) | |||||||||||||||
| ii. | Sir Hugh de Roches (d before 1300) | ||||||||||||||
| m. _ de Hoo (dau/heir of Roger de Hoo) | |||||||||||||||
| a. | John de Roches (d 1312) | ||||||||||||||
| m1. Beatrix (a 1285) | |||||||||||||||
| m2. Margery (dau/heir of Eufemia dau of Sir Herbert de Caune) @1@ above | |||||||||||||||
| (1) | Sir John de Roches of Roche Court (b c1289, d before 1349) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Johanna (d 09.1361) | |||||||||||||||
| (A) | William de Roches of Bromley, Dorset (a 1347, dsp?) | ||||||||||||||
| (B) | Mary de Roches | ||||||||||||||
| m1. Sir John de Borhunte (d 1359) | |||||||||||||||
| (i) | John de Borhunte (b c1345, dsp before 1360) | ||||||||||||||
| m2. Sir Bernard Brocas (d 1395) | |||||||||||||||
| (C) | Alice de Roches (dsp before 1360) | ||||||||||||||
| m. John Romyn (dsp before 1360) | |||||||||||||||
| (2) | Ida de Roche | ||||||||||||||
| m. Sir John de Plecy | |||||||||||||||
| b. | Peter de Roches | ||||||||||||||
| B. | Hugh de Roches (d 1253) | ||||||||||||||
| 3. | Bartholomew de Roches (Rupibus) (d 1231) | ||||||||||||||
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| This section first uploaded 22.12.25. Probably of the family of Wibbery of Wibbery was ... |
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| Oliver Wibbery | |||||||||||||||
| 1. | Gilbert Wibbery | ||||||||||||||
| m. Margaret Fitzwater (dau/heir (by Johanna, dau of Nicholas Burdon) of William Fitzwater (d 1385-6, Sheriff of Cornwall), son of John by Jane, dau/heir of Robert Fleming by Hester, dau of John son of Sir Simon Berkley) | |||||||||||||||
| A. | John Wibbery | ||||||||||||||
| i. | John Wibbery | ||||||||||||||
| m. Leva Gorges (dau/heir of John Gorges, m2. Thomas Bonville) | |||||||||||||||
| a. | Johanna Wibbery | ||||||||||||||
| m. John Bonville (d 1494, son of Thomas by Johanna St. John (de Poynings)) | |||||||||||||||
Main source(s):
(1)/(2) For de Caune & de Roches:
'The Family of Brocas of Beaurepaire and Roche Court' (Montagu Burrows, 1886) with support for the sections on Foxley & Warbleton from 'Chronicles of Finchampstead' (William Lyon, 1895, 'Pedigree of Foxle, or Foxley, of Bray and Bramshill', p95)
(3) For Wibbery :
MGH (NS, vol 2 (1877), p75)
[The section on Dummer has been moved to Dummer1; that on Foxley to Foxley1; that on Warbelton to WZmisc09.]
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