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| This section first uploaded 08.09.11. | |||||||||||||||
| John Walsh of London, later of Redbourn in Hertfordshire (b c1737, bur 22.03.1822, plumber) | |||||||||||||||
| m. Elizabeth (b c1738, d 24.06.1799) | |||||||||||||||
| 1. | Frederick Walsh (b c1762, d 24.02.1839) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (24.07.1795) Harriet Frances Brown | |||||||||||||||
| A.+ | issue including Francis Delaval | ||||||||||||||
| 2. | Mary Elizabeth Walsh (bpt 18.05.1758, d 27.11.1812) | ||||||||||||||
| m1. (15.09.1779) George Carpenter 'of Redbourn' (b 1713, d 10.11.1782) | |||||||||||||||
| A. | Mary Elizabeth Louisa Rodney Carpenter (b 01.01.1783, d 01.06.1811) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Thomas Lyon-Bowes, 11th Earl of Strathmore and Kinghorne (b 03.05.1773, d 27.08.1846) | |||||||||||||||
| m2. (25.06.1783) Francis Delaval | |||||||||||||||
| 3. | Charlotte Jane Sarah Walsh (b c1767, d 23.11.1848) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (02.09.1788) Joseph Valentine Grimstead of Leatherhead & Epsom (b 06.07.1757, d 2212.1834) | |||||||||||||||
| The Genealogist article identifies Joseph's family name as Grimstead which is supported by TCP (Strathmore). However, BP1934 (Strathmore) and various web sites such as 'RoyalData' identify it as Grinstead. | |||||||||||||||
| A. | Charlotte Grimstead (b 22.01.1797, d 1881) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Thomas George Lyon-Bowes, 'Lord Glamis' (b 06.02.1801, dvp 27.01.1834)§R§ |
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| This section first uploaded 17.09.11. | |||||||||||||||
| John Pilfold of Baylings in Warnham (a 1737) | |||||||||||||||
| m. (08.05.1716) Mary Michell (dau of Walsingham Michell of Horsham) | |||||||||||||||
| 1. | Charles Pilfold of Effingham, Surrey | ||||||||||||||
| m. Bethia White (dau of William White of Horsham) | |||||||||||||||
| A. | Charles Pilfold (d in India) | ||||||||||||||
| B. | John Pilfold (Captain) | ||||||||||||||
| m. _ South | |||||||||||||||
| i.+ | 2 daughters | ||||||||||||||
| C. | James Pilfold of Swansea | ||||||||||||||
| m. Anne Stanford (dau of William Stanford of Sullington) | |||||||||||||||
| i.+ | "Several children" | ||||||||||||||
| D. | Elizabeth Pilfold | ||||||||||||||
| m. (10.1791) Sir Timothy Shelley, Bart | |||||||||||||||
| E. | Charlotte Pilfold | ||||||||||||||
| m. (02.1781) Thomas Grove of Fern | |||||||||||||||
| F. | Bethia Pilfold | ||||||||||||||
| m. Gilbert Jackson (rector of Donhead) | |||||||||||||||
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| This section first uploaded 19.09.11. | |||||||||||||||
| Henry Goring of Horsham, Sussex | |||||||||||||||
| m. Elizabeth | |||||||||||||||
| 1. | Henry Goring of Kingston, Staffordshire (d 1642) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Joyce Powell (dau/heir of Evn Powell of London, relict of Thomas Orrell of Slaugham Lodge) | |||||||||||||||
| A. | John Goring of Kingston (d 1654) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Felicia Ticksall (dau/coheir of William Ticksall of Leeshill) | |||||||||||||||
| Visitation ends by showing Thomas, William & Mary in the next generation. The Harleian editor includes a note providing more detail, reporting what Gregory King noted "at the end of the Visitation book", which is also recorded in "Staffordshire Pedigrees (1664-1700)" edited by Armytage & Rylands. | |||||||||||||||
| i. | Thomas Goring 'of Kingston' (b c1647, d 1678) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Elizabeth Floyer (dau of Richard Floyer of Hints) | |||||||||||||||
| a.+ | issue including John | ||||||||||||||
| ii. | William Goring of Kingston (b c1649, a 1681) | ||||||||||||||
| m. 1672) Sarah Gilbert (d 1707, dau/coheir of Humphry Gilbert of Frodley) father named John by Commoners | |||||||||||||||
| The Harleian editor's note referred to above reports that William & Sarah had "several daughters" in 1681. The editor provides an additional note on William & Sarah's family, reporting that most of the issue "died young or unmarried" and mentions Henry and also the report in Commoners that Henry's dau/heir married Morgan Thomas. The editor then goes on to report that Commoners contains "a very incorrect account of this family", referring to the fact that it shows this William as son of Henry of Kingston (a 1659) brother of George, 1st Earl of Norwich (see here). We follow Visitation's report on William's ancestry but accept Commoners' report on his descendants. | |||||||||||||||
| a. | Henry Goring of Frodley Hall, Staffordshire (d 1748) | ||||||||||||||
| (1) | (Frances) Goring | ||||||||||||||
| m. (1768) Morgan Thomas (d 1726, d 20.05.1800) | |||||||||||||||
| b. | Sarah Goring | ||||||||||||||
| m. William Debank of Barton-under-Needwood | |||||||||||||||
| (1) | William Debank (d unm) | ||||||||||||||
| (2) | Sarah Debank | ||||||||||||||
| m. Richard Newton of Burton-on-Trent | |||||||||||||||
| (A) | Anne Newton | ||||||||||||||
| m. John Newton of Ashby-de-la-Zouche | |||||||||||||||
| (B) | Elizabeth Newton (d 1822) | ||||||||||||||
| m. John Davies Greaves of Burton-on-Trent (d 1784) | |||||||||||||||
| (C)+ | other issue - Sarah, others (d unm) | ||||||||||||||
| c.+ | other issue "the issue of all of whom are now extinct" | ||||||||||||||
| iii. | Mary Goring (b 1651-2, a 1681) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Copwood Hollins of Dilborn | |||||||||||||||
| B. | William Goring of Booth, Staffordshire (d 1657) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Anne Lovet (dau/coheir of Thomas Lovet of Callowhill) | |||||||||||||||
| i. | Lovet Goring of Booth (b 14.04.1647, a 1680) | ||||||||||||||
| ii. | Henry Goring | ||||||||||||||
| m. _ Sherard of Wolverhampton | |||||||||||||||
| a. | William Goring | ||||||||||||||
| iii. | Joyce Goring | ||||||||||||||
| iv. | Elizabeth Goring | ||||||||||||||
| m. Christopher Sanders of Windsor, New England ("Cosen german to Sanders of Little Ireton") | |||||||||||||||
| C. | Elizabeth Goring | ||||||||||||||
| m. Thomas Sanders of Little Ireton | |||||||||||||||
| 2. | Elizabeth Goring | ||||||||||||||
| m1. _ Jennor | |||||||||||||||
| m2. _ Grace or Scrase of Sussex | |||||||||||||||
| m3. _ Whitfield of Bowrant | |||||||||||||||
| 3. | Hannah Goring | ||||||||||||||
| m1. _ Avery of Sussex | |||||||||||||||
| m2. _ Alderton of Sussex | |||||||||||||||
| m3. _ Carsar of Lewes | |||||||||||||||
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| This section first uploaded 26.09.11. | |||||||||||||||
| Stephen de Ufwell | |||||||||||||||
| 1. | Robert de Ufwell (dsp) | ||||||||||||||
| 2. | Margery de Ufwell | ||||||||||||||
| m. Henry de Esse | |||||||||||||||
| A. | Juliana de Esse | ||||||||||||||
| m. John de Orwey @@ below | |||||||||||||||
| B. | Gervasa de Esse | ||||||||||||||
| m. William de Parco | |||||||||||||||
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| This section first uploaded 26.09.11. See also the line of Orway here. |
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| Robert de Orwey | |||||||||||||||
| 1. | William de Orwey | ||||||||||||||
| A. | Thomas de Orwey | ||||||||||||||
| i. | William de Orwey | ||||||||||||||
| a. | John de Orwey | ||||||||||||||
| m. Juliana de Esse (coheir of Robert de Ufwell) @@ above | |||||||||||||||
| (1) | Thomas de Orwey of Orwey | ||||||||||||||
| (2) | Robert de Orwey | ||||||||||||||
| (A) | Elizabeth Orwey (heir) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Richard de Okebere | |||||||||||||||
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| This section first uploaded 04.10.11, reviewed 10.07.18. | |||||||||||||||
| John Durnford | |||||||||||||||
| m. Johanna Cokeyne (dau/heir of Henry Cokeyne by Alice, dau/heir of John Carndow by Alice, dau/heir of John Birrie (Berry?) by Clara, sister of John Damerell) | |||||||||||||||
| 1. | Alice Durnford | ||||||||||||||
| m. Richard Coode in Gidley (a 1420) | |||||||||||||||
| 2. | Johanna Durnford ## see here ## | ||||||||||||||
| m. Sir Piers Edgcomb | |||||||||||||||
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| This section first uploaded 04.10.11. | |||||||||||||||
| George Logie (sheriff clerk of Kincardine) | |||||||||||||||
| m. Elizabeth Forbes (dau/heir of John Forbes of Kincardine by Elizabeth, dau/coheir of Peter Farquharson, 4th of Inverie) | |||||||||||||||
| 1. | Francis Logie of Middlefield | ||||||||||||||
| m. (13.01.1777) Jean Gordon (bpt 11.10.1747, d 25.05.1802, dau of Thomas Gordon, son of Charles of Buthlaw) | |||||||||||||||
| A. | Mary Logie (dsps 18.11.1838) | ||||||||||||||
| m. William Young of Fawsyde, 9th of Buthlaw | |||||||||||||||
| B. | Elizabeth Logie (d unm) | ||||||||||||||
| C. | Anne Logie (d 06.07.1856) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (25.04.1805) Alexander Pirie of Waterton | |||||||||||||||
| Their eldest son became Patrick Pirie-Gordon of Buthlaw. | |||||||||||||||
Main source(s):
(1) For Walsh : the article on 'Walsh of Redbourn' by Edward J. Davies in 'Genealogists' Magazine' (vol 30, no. 7, September 2011)
(2) For Pilfold : within the pedigree of Michell in CountyGen (Sussex, Berry)
(3) For Goring : Visitation (Staffordshire, 1614 & 1663-4, Goring of Kingston) with input from the section on 'Family of Goring' within Commoners (vol 1, Greaves of Mayfield Hall)
(4) For Ufwell : Visitation (Devon, 1620, Pole)
(5) For Orwey : Visitation (Devon, 1620, Pole)
(6) For Durnford : Visitation (J.L. Vivian (1887), Cornwall, 1530+1573+1620+additions, 'Coode of Morval', p94)
(7) For Logie : BLG1952 (Pirie-Gordon of Buthlaw)
[The section on Parry of Newcourt in Bacton has been absorbed by Parry4.]
[The section on Rede of Boarstall has been expanded & moved to RZmisc07; that of Lewis of Harpton to Lewis08.]
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