'VZmisc01'Index links to: Lead / Letter
Families covered: Valence of Pembroke, Vipont (Veteripont) of Appleby, de Valoniis (or Valoines or Valognes)

                               
William de Valence, 'Earl of Pembroke' (b after 1225, d before 18.05.1296)
William's wife's mother was Joan Marshall, daughter of William, Earl of Pembroke. Although William was often referred to as 'Earl of Pembroke', and sometimes also as Earl of Wexford, TCP (Pembroke) reports that he was never actually created an Earl. However, BE1883 does identify him as an Earl.
m. (13.08.1247) Joan de Munchensy of Swanscombe (dau of Warin de Munchensy of Swanscombe)
1. John de Valence (dspvp 01.1276/7)
2. William de Valence (dvpsp 16.06.1282)
3. Aymer de Valence, Earl of Pembroke (b c1270, dsp 23.06.1324)
TCP accepts that Aymer was formally regarded as Earl of Pembroke.
  m1. Beatrix de Clermont (dsp before 14.09.1320, dau of Ralph de Clermont, Constable of France)
  m2. (07.1321) Mary de Chatillon (dsp 16/17.03.1377, dau of Guy de Chatillon, Comte de St. Paul)
4. Isabel de Valence (d 03/5.10.1305)
  m. (1275) John Hastings, 1st Lord of Abergavenny (b 06.05.1262, d 10.02.1313)
5. Margaret de Valence (dvp bur 24.03.1275/6)
6. Agnes or Anne de Valence (dsp 02.01.1310)
  m1. Maurice FitzGerald, 3rd Lord of Offaly
  m2. Sir Hugh Baliol of Barnard Castle (b 1240, dsp before 10.01.1271)
  m3. John de Avesnes
7. Joan de Valence
  m. Sir John 'the Red' Comyn, Lord of Badenoch (d 10.02.1306)

 

 

Robert de Vipont or Veteripont
1. William de Vipont or Veteripont
  m. Matthilde St. Andrew
  A. Ivo de Vipont or Veteripont
  B. William de Vipont (d 1202)
  m. Maude de Moreville (dau of Hugh de Moreville)
  i. Robert de Vipont, Sheriff, lord of Appleby (d 1227-8)
  m. Idonea de Buillyi (dau of John de Builly or Busli)
a. John de Vipont of Appleby, Sheriff of Westmoreland (d 25.07.1241)
  m. ?? de Ferrers (dau of William de Ferrers, 4th Earl of Derby)
  (1) Robert de Vipont of Appleby, Sheriff of Westmoreland (b 1239, d 07.06.1264)
  m. Isabel FitzJohn (dau of John FitzGeoffrey FitzPiers of Shere, Sheriff of Yorkshire)
  (A) Isabel de Vipont, lady of Appleby (b c1254, d 14.05.1292) Y
  m. (1269) Roger de Clifford (d c1285) Y
  (B) Idonea de Vipont (d 10.11.1333)
  m1. Roger de Leybourne
  m2. (sp) John de Cromwell, Lord (d before 08.10.1335)
  b. Christian Vipont

 

 

We hope in due course to determine what connection if any existed between the following family and the Valoines of Orford Castle, etc..
Philip de Valoniis
1. ?? de Valoniis
  A. Philip de Valoniis or Valognes or Valoines of Panmure (a 1180)
  i. William de Valoniis of Panmure, Chamberlain of Scotland (d 1219)
  m. Lorretta de Quincy (dau of Saier de Quincy, 1st Earl of Winchester)
  a. Christian de Valoniis
  m. (before 1215) Peter de Maule (d 1254)
b. Lora de Valoniis
  m. Henry de Baliol, Chamberlain of Scotland
  c. daughter
  ii. Sybil de Valoniis
  m. Robert de Stuteville
  B. Roger de Valoniis of Easter Kilbride
  i. Isabella de Valoniis
  m. David Comyn of Kilbride (d before 07.08.1247)
  C. Robert de Valoniis or Valoines of Bennington, etc
  i. Gunnora de Valoniis
  m. Robert FitzWalter of Woodham Walter (d Damletta 1234)
Most probably connected to this family in some way not yet identified was a son who gave rise to the family of Torrie. The connection was certainly not through the above William or Roger, whose daughters were their heiresses, and probably not through the above Robert whose daughter's daughter Christian FitzWalter (Countess of Essex) included the above Christian and Lora amongst her heirs.
  D. ?? de Valoniis
  i. ?? de Valoniis
  Uncertain on number of intervening generations.
  a. ?? de Valoniis
  (1) ?? de Valoniis
  (A) Sir James de Valoniis of Torrie
  (i) Christian de Valoniis --
  m. Andrew Wardlaw, 4th of Wilton, 1st of Torrie (a 1417) --

Main source(s):
(1) For Valence (uploaded 31.10.03) : TCP (Pembroke), BE1883 (Pembroke), GenEU (Lusignan2)
(2) For Vipont (uploaded **.11.03?) : various web sites
(3) For de Valoniis (uploaded by 22.12.03) : TSP (Panmure), TSP (Comyn)
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