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This section first uploaded 22.03.10. | |||||||||||||||
Hugh Weir of Clowburn | |||||||||||||||
m. (before 01.08.1617) Abigail Carmichael (dau of Sir John Carmichael of Carmichael) | |||||||||||||||
We speculate that Hugh & Abigail were parents of ... | |||||||||||||||
1. | John Weir of Clowburn | ||||||||||||||
m. Grizel Denham or Denholm (dau of Robert Denham or Denholm of Westshields) | |||||||||||||||
A. | Mary Weir (coheir) | ||||||||||||||
m. Sir Archibald Kennedy, 1st Bart of Clowburn (d c02.1716/7) | |||||||||||||||
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This section first uploaded 22.03.10. | |||||||||||||||
Charles Trinder of Westwell & Holwell (d 1657) | |||||||||||||||
m. Jane Heylin (dau of Henry Heylin of Burford) | |||||||||||||||
1. | Charles Trinder of Holwell & Bourton-on-the-Water (d 1719, 2nd son) | ||||||||||||||
m. Ann Greenwood | |||||||||||||||
A. | Mary Trinder probably of this generation | ||||||||||||||
m. John Bodenham | |||||||||||||||
B. | Eugenia Trinder (d 1734) probably of this generation | ||||||||||||||
m. (1684) John Wright of Kelvedon (d 27.08.1731) | |||||||||||||||
2. | Elizabeth Trinder (b 1623/4, d 11.06.1641) | ||||||||||||||
m. John Wheeler | |||||||||||||||
3. | Joyce Trinder (d 1698) | ||||||||||||||
m. Richard Sackville of Bilbury | |||||||||||||||
4.+ | other issue - John (d 1698), Henry of Holwell (d 1712, recorder of Oxford), William of London (d 1690), Giles, others | ||||||||||||||
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This section first uploaded 25.03.10. | |||||||||||||||
Samuel White of London | |||||||||||||||
1. | Susan White | ||||||||||||||
m. John Gumley of Isleworth @@ just below | |||||||||||||||
2. | Mary White (bur 15.05.1716) | ||||||||||||||
m. Sir John Wittewrong, 3rd Bart (bpt 11.07.1673, d 30.01.1721-2) | |||||||||||||||
TCB (Wittewrong) identifies Mary as "niece of Richard Perry of London". | |||||||||||||||
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This section first uploaded 25.03.10. | |||||||||||||||
John Gumley of Isleworth, Middlesex | |||||||||||||||
m. Susan White (dau of Samuel White of London) @@ just above | |||||||||||||||
1. | John Gumley probably of this generation | ||||||||||||||
Identified in BEB1841 (Wittewrong of Stantonbury) as 2nd son of John of Iselworth. | |||||||||||||||
m. Martha Wittewrong (dau of Sir John Wittewrong of Stantonbury, 3rd Bart) | |||||||||||||||
2. | Anna Maria Gumley of Gumley House (b 1693-4, d 14.09.1758) | ||||||||||||||
m. (27.12.1714) William Pulteney of Misterton, Earl of Bath (b 04.1684, d 08.07.1764) | |||||||||||||||
3. | Laetitia Gumley (d 13.05.1760) | ||||||||||||||
m. Launcelot Charles Lake | |||||||||||||||
4. | Mary Gumley | ||||||||||||||
m. Francis Colman of Kensington | |||||||||||||||
A. | George Colman (dramatist) | ||||||||||||||
5.+ | other daughters | ||||||||||||||
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This section first uploaded 29.03.10. | |||||||||||||||
John de Napton | |||||||||||||||
m. Alice (dau/heir of Richard de Minsterton) | |||||||||||||||
1. | Agnes de Napton | ||||||||||||||
m. Geoffrey Feilding | |||||||||||||||
2. | Maud de Napton possibly of this family, of this generation | ||||||||||||||
m. Adam de Pulteney | |||||||||||||||
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This section first uploaded 31.03.10. | |||||||||||||||
Sir Thomas Holbrooke | |||||||||||||||
1. | John Holbrooke | ||||||||||||||
m. _ Burchid (dau of Robert Burchid) | |||||||||||||||
A. | Elizabeth Holbrooke | ||||||||||||||
m. Robert FitzRalph | |||||||||||||||
i. | Elizabeth FitzRalph (d 1417) | ||||||||||||||
m. John Wolverton | |||||||||||||||
B. | Margaret Holbrooke | ||||||||||||||
m. John Falstaffe (son of Hugh) | |||||||||||||||
i. | Hugh de Falstofte | ||||||||||||||
a. | John Falstoffe | ||||||||||||||
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This section first uploaded 31.03.10. | |||||||||||||||
Sir Robert de Standisshe of Ulnes Walton, Lancashire | |||||||||||||||
m. Iseude | |||||||||||||||
1. | Elizabeth Standish (d 01-2.1441/2) | ||||||||||||||
m1. (10.04.1835) John de Wrottesley of Wrottesley (b 29.09.1379, d 07.09.1402) | |||||||||||||||
m2. (c04.1404) Sir William Botiller of Warrington & Layton (d Harfleur 26.09.1415) | |||||||||||||||
m3. (before 26.10.1416) William Ferrers, 5th Lord of Groby (b 25.04.1372, d 18.05.1445) | |||||||||||||||
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This section first uploaded 02.03.12. | |||||||||||||||
Sir Henry Eggebaston or Egbaston or Edgbaston or Edgbarston of Edgbaston | |||||||||||||||
1. | Isabella Edgbaston (d c1423) | ||||||||||||||
m1. Thomas Middlemore of London, later of Edgbaston (d c1409/10) | |||||||||||||||
m2. Richard Clodshall of Saltley @@ just below | |||||||||||||||
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This section first uploaded 02.03.12. | |||||||||||||||
Walter Clodshall (a 1339) | |||||||||||||||
1. | Richard Clodshall (a 1339) | ||||||||||||||
VCH reports that in 1339 Richard was named alongside his father in a document in respect of a property transaction. We suspect that he must therefore have been older than an infant at the time. Accordingly, apparently unlike the compiler of that VCH record, we think it unlikely that this was the same Richard as the one who was still alive in 1424-5. We presume to show two generations of Richards and would not be surprised to hear that there was in fact another generation between the above Richard and ... | |||||||||||||||
A. | Richard Clodshall 'of Saltley' (a 1424, d by 1428) | ||||||||||||||
m. (after 1409) Isabella Edgbaston (dau/heir of Sir Henry Edgbaston of Edgbaston) @@ just above | |||||||||||||||
VCH does not name Richard's wife but the dates make it appear most likely that it was Isabella who was mother by him of ... | |||||||||||||||
i. | Richard Clodshall (d before 1431) | ||||||||||||||
Mentioned in VCH (Worcestershire, vol 4, Parishes: Stockton on Teme), being still a minor in 1428. | |||||||||||||||
ii. | Elizabeth Clodshall | ||||||||||||||
m. Robert Arderne of Park Hall (b c1412, d 12.08.1452) | |||||||||||||||
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This section first uploaded 26.07.23. | |||||||||||||||
Alan Waldeise | |||||||||||||||
m. Joan (dau/heir of Sir Richard de Witenton) | |||||||||||||||
1. | Helen Waldeise | ||||||||||||||
m. Richard Walsche of Anlep (a 1433, 1450) | |||||||||||||||
2. | Margaret Waldeise | ||||||||||||||
m. Thomas Hore of Elmedon | |||||||||||||||
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This section first uploaded 26.07.23. | |||||||||||||||
Nichols identifies the arms of this family as "Argent, crusuly, fitché, three fleurs-de-lis Gules". | |||||||||||||||
Adam Talbot | |||||||||||||||
1. | William Talbot (a 1277) | ||||||||||||||
A. | Alan Talbot (a 1311) | ||||||||||||||
i. | Philip Talbot | ||||||||||||||
m. Elizabeth de Frene (sister/coheir of Richard de Frene) | |||||||||||||||
a. | Sir John Talbot of Swanington (b 1325) | ||||||||||||||
m. Alice Moton (dau of Sir Robert Moton of Peckleton) | |||||||||||||||
(1) | Joane Talbot | ||||||||||||||
m. Simon Leke of Gotham | |||||||||||||||
Main source(s):
(1) For Weir of Clowburn : cross-references from elsewhere in the database
(2) For Trinder of Holwell : www.trinder.org
(3) For White of London : TCP (Bath (Pulteney))
(4) For Gumley of Isleworth : TCP (Bath (Pulteney))
(5) For Napton : Collins's 'Peerage of England'(1756 edition, vol III, Pulteney, Earl of Bath)
(6) For Holbrooke : Visitation (Warwickshire, 1619, Eschales Frevill Holbrooke and Falstaff)
(7) For Standish : TCP (Ferrers of Groby)
(8) For Edgbaston : cross-references from elsewhere in the database
(9) For Clodshall : VCH (Worcestershire, vol 3, Parishes: Pedmore)
(10) For Waldeise : 'History and Antiquities of the County of Leicester' (John Nichols, vol 3, part 2, 1804, 'Pedigree of Walsh, or Waleys, of Wanlip', p1100)
(11) For Talbot : 'History and Antiquities of the County of Leicester' (John Nichols, vol 3, part 2, 1804, 'Pedigree of Talbot of Swanington', p1123)
[The section on Kennedy of Clowburn has been moved to Kennedy04; that on Walsh of Wanlip has been absorbed by Walsh05.]
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