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| This section first uploaded on 10.10.07. It was partly reviewed on 16.03.17 when a few connections that had previously been shown below were moved to Thursby02. | |||||||||||||||
| Richard de Thoresby | |||||||||||||||
| We hope in due course to connect the following family with that shown on Thursby01. This has been complicated by the overlap with Thursby02 mentioned below. | |||||||||||||||
| 1. | Sir Adam de Thoresby | ||||||||||||||
| m. Sibill FitzRandulph (dau of Sir Randulph FitzRandulph of Spennithorne) | |||||||||||||||
| A. | Sir Hugh de Thoresby | ||||||||||||||
| m. Qenylda (dau of Sir Richard or Nicholas de Gertherstone) | |||||||||||||||
| i. | Hugh Thoresbye | ||||||||||||||
| m. Isabell le Grose (dau of Sir Thomas le Grose of Suffolk) | |||||||||||||||
| a. | Hugh Thoresby | ||||||||||||||
| m. Alice Syggeston (dau of Sir John Syggeston) | |||||||||||||||
| (1) | John Thoresby | ||||||||||||||
| m. Margery Routh (dau of William de Routh of Holderness) | |||||||||||||||
| (A) | William Thoresby of Thoresby | ||||||||||||||
| m. Anne Scrope (dau of Henry Scrope of Spennithorne, son of John of Hambeldon) | |||||||||||||||
| This is where the overlap with Thursby02 commences. | |||||||||||||||
| (B) | Robert Thoresby | ||||||||||||||
| (C) | Hugh Thoresby | ||||||||||||||
| m. Maude Hartford (dau of William Hartford of Baddesworth) | |||||||||||||||
| (i) | Agnes Thoresby | ||||||||||||||
| m. Thomas Dodsworth | |||||||||||||||
| (a)+ | issue - Ralph, Jane | ||||||||||||||
| (ii) | Isabel Thoresby | ||||||||||||||
| m. John Quixley | |||||||||||||||
| (a)+ | issue - George, Nicholas | ||||||||||||||
| b.+ | other issue - Percy, Thomas, Maddy, John | ||||||||||||||
| B. | Sir Percie Thoresby (priest) | ||||||||||||||
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| This section first uploaded on 10.10.07. | |||||||||||||||
| William Staveley of Bignell, Oxfordshire (d 10.10.1498) | |||||||||||||||
| m. Alice Frances (d 20.10.1500, dau of Sir John Frances) | |||||||||||||||
| 1. | George Staveley of Bignell | ||||||||||||||
| m. Isabel Strelly (dau of Sir John Strelly of Lynby, sister of Sir Nicholas) | |||||||||||||||
| A. | John Staveley of Bignell | ||||||||||||||
| m. Constance Danvers (dau of Sir John Danvers of Dauntesey) | |||||||||||||||
| i. | Thomas Staveley of Bignell | ||||||||||||||
| m. Margaret Bawde (dau of John Bawde of Bedfordshire) | |||||||||||||||
| a. | Thomas Staveley of Bignell | ||||||||||||||
| m. Margery Broke (dau of Arthur Broke of Okeley) | |||||||||||||||
| (1) | Arthur Staveley | ||||||||||||||
| (2) | Katherine Staveley | ||||||||||||||
| m. Thomas Rolt of Milton | |||||||||||||||
| ii. | Mary Staveley | ||||||||||||||
| m. _ Chere of Berkshire | |||||||||||||||
| iii.+ | other issue - Edward, Dorothy, Isabell | ||||||||||||||
| 2. | Mary Staveley | ||||||||||||||
| m. Thomas Gifford of Twiford (b c1481, d 25.11.1550) | |||||||||||||||
| 3. | Isabel Staveley | ||||||||||||||
| m1. William (not Sir Francis) Tanfield of Geyton (d 1550) | |||||||||||||||
| m2. Richard Humphrey of Barton | |||||||||||||||
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| This section first uploaded on 19.10.07. | |||||||||||||||
| James Carrier of Helpston | |||||||||||||||
| m. Elizabeth Parker (dau of Thomas Parker of Browsholme, sister of Janet) | |||||||||||||||
| 1. | Bridget Carrier | ||||||||||||||
| m. William Parker of Park Hall | |||||||||||||||
| It appears that the Carriers of Helpston (Northamptonshire) and those of Wirksworth (Derbyshire) were closely connected, the undermentioned Janet being found described in a web site as heiress of both places. | |||||||||||||||
| Richard Carrier of Wirksworth (minister of Wirksworth) | |||||||||||||||
| m. (08.1612/3) Janet Parker (dau of Thomas Parker of Browsholme, sister of Elizabeth) | |||||||||||||||
| 1. | Robert Carrier of Wirksworth said by some to have in fact been Charles so that Janet & Isabella were sisters | ||||||||||||||
| m. Elizabeth | |||||||||||||||
| A. | Janet Carrier (23.08.1733, 2nd dau/heir) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (23.04.1691) Thomas Parker, 1st Earl of Macclesfield (b 23.07.1667, d 28.04.1732) | |||||||||||||||
| TCP (Macclesfield) suggests that Janet's great-grandfather, Thomas Parker of Browsholme, was the Thomas who was older brother of George Parker of Park Hall, grandfather of 1st Earl of Macclesfield, making her 2nd cousin of her husband. However, that appears to be wrong as the Parkers of Browsholme were of a different family. | |||||||||||||||
| 2. | Charles Carrier of Wirksworth possibly fits here | ||||||||||||||
| A. | Isabella Carrier (co-heir) | ||||||||||||||
| Collins (1741, Anson (in supplement)) identifies William's wife as Elizabeth, dau of _ Carrier of Wirkworth (sic) and sister of the Countess of Macclesfield. However, TCP (Anson) supports BP1934 (Lichfield) in identifying her as Isabella, daughter of Charles. | |||||||||||||||
| m. William Anson of Shugborough (b c1656, d 08.1720) | |||||||||||||||
| 3. | Isabella Carrier probably of this generation | ||||||||||||||
| m. (20.09.1653) John Davenport of Woodford | |||||||||||||||
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| This section first uploaded on 05.12.08. | |||||||||||||||
| TSP (Kenmure) identified the following William as ancestor of Gordons of Craighlaw, Culvennan, Crosherie, Mains of Penningham, Glasgow, Whitehill, Aikenhead, Grange & Balmog. | |||||||||||||||
| William Gordon of Craichlaw, Wigtonshire (d 1545) | |||||||||||||||
| m. Janet Baillie | |||||||||||||||
| 1. | William Gordon of Craichlaw (d 1570) | ||||||||||||||
| A. | John Gordon of Craichlaw (d 1580) possibly the 'Gordon of Craiglaw' who married ... | ||||||||||||||
| m. ?? Crawford (dau of David Crawfurd of Kerse) possibly wife of John & mother of ... | |||||||||||||||
| i. | William Gordon of Craichlaw & Culvennan (Wigtonshire) (d 1636) | ||||||||||||||
| a. | Alexander Gordon of Culvennan (d 1679) | ||||||||||||||
| (1) | William Gordon of Culvennan (d 1703) | ||||||||||||||
| (A) | William Gordon of Culvennan "to whom succeeded" ... | ||||||||||||||
| (i) | Sir Alexander Gordon of Culvennan, Sheriff of Wigton then Kirkcudbright (b c1747, d 21.10.1830) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (17.07.1769) Grace Dalrymple (sister of Sir John Dalrymple-Hay of Glenluce, Bart) | |||||||||||||||
| (a) | James Gordon of Culvennan (b 02.12.1771, Lt. Colonel) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (17.09.1816) Janet Hannay (dau/coheir of Johnstone Hannay of Balcary) | |||||||||||||||
| (b) | David Gordon (b 26.03.1774, d 01.11.1829, Captain) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (02.09.1797) Agnes Heyslop (dau of William Heyslop of Lochend) | |||||||||||||||
| ((1)) | William Gordon of Ernmynzie (b 17.08.1800) had issue | ||||||||||||||
| m. (17.08.1825) Agnes Marion Heyslop (dau of John Heyslop of Lochend, cousin) | |||||||||||||||
| ((2)) | Alexander Gordon (b 05.05.1802) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (1826) Sarah Cox | |||||||||||||||
| ((3)) | Grace Gordon (b 28.05.1807) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (1828) Charles Potter of Darwen | |||||||||||||||
| ((4)) | Isabella Gordon (b 09.03.1809, dsp) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (1833) James Richard Clark | |||||||||||||||
| ((5))+ | other issue - James (b 31.01.1818), Jean | ||||||||||||||
| (c)+ | other issue - Isabella (b 06.10.1779), others (d young) | ||||||||||||||
| ii. | daughter possibly of this generation | ||||||||||||||
| m. David Crawfurd of Drumsoy (d c1660, cousin) | |||||||||||||||
Main source(s):
(1) For Thoresby of Thoresby : Visitation (Joseph Foster 1875, Yorkshire, 1584+1612, Additional Pedigrees, Thoresby)
(2) For Staveley of Bignell : Visitation (Oxfordshire, 1566+1574+1634, Staveley of Bigenhall)
(3) For Carrier of Wirksworth : BLG1886 (Parker of Browsholme)
(4) For Gordon of Craichlaw & Culvennan : Commoners (vol III, Gordon of Culvennan)
[The section on the Norbury family has been moved to Norbury1; that on Dunbar to Dunbar08.]
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