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This section first uploaded on 07.03.08.
Alexander Morison
m. Elizabeth Garden
1. George Morison of Bognie
  m. Christian Urquhart (dau of Sir Alexander Urquhart)
  A. Theodore Morison of Bognie
  m. Catherine Maitland (dau of Sir Charles Maitland, Bart of Pitrichie, by Jean Forbes)
  i. Alexander Morison of Bognie (d 17.09.1801)
  m. Catharine Duff (dau of John Duff of Cublin)
  a. Katherine Morison (b 1757, d 05.01.1832)
  m. (1783) John Forbes, 5th of Boyndlie (b 27.06.1758, d 06.12.1824)
  B. Susanna Morison
  m. (27.04.1704) John Forbes, 1st of Boyndlie (b 07.02.1680, a 1715)



This section first uploaded on 07.03.08.
James Harvey of Seaton House, Aberdeenshire
m. _ Fiddes
1. William Harvey of Monycaboc (b 1752, d 1834)
  m. Jean Lumsden (b 1760, d 1837, dau of John Lumsden of Boghead of Kintore by Christian Stephen)
  A. Catherine Harvey (b 1786, d 30.07.1864)
  m. John (James) Crombie in Aberdeenshire (b 1771, d 06.05.1858)



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Robert Durie of Grange
m. Christine Rutherford (sister of Andrew Rutherford, 1st Lord Rutherford, Earl of Teviot)
1. John Durie of Grange (d(sp?) before 29.04.1643)
2. William Durie of Grange (d before 24.01.1662)
  A. John Durie of Overgrange (d 04.1724)
  i. George Durie, '5th Lord Rutherfurd' (d 18.06.1759)
  George was one of two claimants to the title after the death of the 4th Lord Rutherfurd.
  m. Margaret Ogilvy (dau of Captain David Ogilvy by Jean Thoirs)
  a. David Durie, '6th Lord Rutherfurd' (dsp 15.10.1785)
  ii. daughter
  m. _ Anderson
  a. John Anderson of Goland
3. Christian Durie presumably the Christian who married ...
  m. (1633) James Durie of Netherton and Craigluscar (b 1583, d 1682)



This section first uploaded on 09.03.08.
Hugh de Longchamp of Wilton Castle
m. Eve de Lacy (dau of Gilbert de Lacy of Hereford, son of Sir Hugh Talbot of Shrewsbury by Emma de Lacy)
1. Hugh de Longchamp of Wilton (b 1138, d c1194)
  m. Emme de St. Leger (dau of Sir Reginald de St. Leger of Wartling)
A. Henry (Stephen?) de Longchamp of Wilton (b 1158, d 1212)
  m. Maud de Cantelou (dau of Walter de Cantelou or Cantilupe)
  i. Hugh de Longchamp of Wilton
  m. Georgia de Columbers (dau of Henry de Columbiers)
  a. Sir Henry de Longchamp of Wilton
  m. Joan
(1) Maud de Longchamp (d before 21.11.1302)
  m. Reginald de Grey, 1st Lord of Wilton (d 1308)
  ii. William de Longchamp (d c1211-2)
  m. (1191) Petronilla de Craon (dau of Guy de Craon of Freiston)
  The following is supported by Maddison's Lincolnshire Pedigrees (1906, 'Pedwardine of Burton Pedwardine' (#2)).
  a. Henry de Longchamp of Warnborough Manor
  m. Sibyl (dau of Sir Thomas de Heringande)
  (1) William de Longchamp (dvp?)
  (2) Alice de Longchamp of Burton & Warnborough (d 1330)
  m. Roger de Pedwardyne
  B. Roger de Longchamp
  i. Sibel de Longchamp
  m. John de Vaux of Walton
  C. Margaret de Longchamp
  m. Roger (Robert?) de Gresley



This section first uploaded on 09.03.08.
The following records the suggestions of the interesting genealogical database at www.celtic-casimir.com/webtree/. It provides an alternative ancestry for the Talbot and Lacy families. We have not yet used it to extend Talbot01 or to amend Lacy01 because we wish to investigate the suggestions further before we commit to support such major claims. Nevertheless, we think it worth drawing to people's attention to obtain comment.
Lesire Talbot of Battlesden, Bedfordshire (b c980)
1. William Talbot of Battlesden (b 1025)
  m. Basilia de Falaise (dau of Gilbert d'Evreux being apparently the same person as Gerard de Fleitel)
  A. Sir Richard Talbot of Battlesden (b 1045)
  m1. Aimee d'Aubigny (dau of Guillaume d'Aubigny de Contentin by Adelicia de Plessis)
  i. Sir Hugh Talbot of Shrewsbury
  This appears to be the Hugh, shown on Talbot01 as married to Beatrix Mandeville, who was ancestor of many Talbot families, including the Earls of Shrewsbury. The celtic-casimir site shows an earlier marriage for Hugh to ...
  m1. Emma de Lacy (dau of Walter de Lacy by Emeline)
  a. Gilbert de Lacy of Hereford (a 1163)
  This appears to be the Gilbert who was ancestor of the Lacis of Meath, etc., reported on Lacy01.
  m2. Beatrix de Mandeville, 'Countess of Essex'
m2. Gunnora de Gournay (dau of Sir Gerald de Gournay)
  ii. Sir Geoffrey Talbot of Swanscombe
  This appears to be the Geoffrey, shown on Talbot01 as married to Agnes de Lacy, who had a son Geoffrey and a daughter Sybil. The celtic-casimir site shows the following descendants for another son, William.
  m. Agnes de Lacy (dau of Walter de Lacy)
  a. William Talbot of Gainsborough, Lincolnshire (b c1120)
  (1) Sir Robert (Quintin) Talbot of Gainsborough (d before 1195)
  The celtic-casimir site identifies Robert's wife only as Ermentrude. It appears that she was ...
  m. Ermentrude de Ferrers (dau of Robert de Ferrers of Eggington)
  (A) Ermentrude Talbot
  m. Henry FitzGerold of Deddington & Kingston



This section first uploaded on 18.08.20.
'The Pedigree Register' shows the following Ranulph as son (by Cecily, dau/heir of Robert de Romelli of Skipton) of William de Meschines brother of Ranulph, Earl of Chester, whereas the William who married Cecily Romelli is normally shown as Ranulph's son. We have not seen Ranulph mentioned in any other source covering the Meschines family and feel somewhat cautious on the connection.
Ranulph de Baiocis in Lincoln
m. Margaret (dau/heir of Alan de Lincoln, son of Alfred, Earl of Lincoln)
1. Hugh de Baiocis )a 1166)
  m. Alianore
  A. Stephen de Baiocis
  i. Matilda de Baiocis
  m1/2. Sir Helias de Rabania
  a. Joanna de Rabania
  m1. Robert de Brakenberg
  m2. Sir Roger Mallory
  'The Pedigree Register' indicates that the Mallorys of Winwick descended from this marriage.
  b.+ other issue (dsp) - Piers, John
  m2/1. Piers de Mallory
  ii. Joan de Baiocis
m. Piers Baudrah
  B. John de Baiocis (dsp 1248-9)
2. Alan de Baiocis
3. William de Baiocis
  A. Adam de Baiocis
  i. Henry de Baiocis
4. Richard de Baiocis of Bradwell, Buckinghamshire
  m. Lucia
  A. Hugh de Baiocis of Bradwell & Morton, Buckinghamshire
  i. Sir Richard de Baiocis (a 1306)
  a. Richard Baiocis or Bay of Morton
  (1) Richard Bay of Oxford
  (A) Thomas Bay or By (a 1403, MP for Reading)
  (2) Thomas Bay (rector of Bovington)
  b. Robert Baiocis of Covington, Northamptonshire ancestor of the Bays of Covington

Main source(s):
(1) For Morison of Bognie : various web sites
(2) For Harvey : various web sites
(3) For Durie of Grange : TSP (Rutherfurd)
(4) For Longchamp of Wilton & Warnbrough : various web sites, in particular www.celtic-casimir.com/webtree/
(5) For Talbot of Battlesden : www.celtic-casimir.com/webtree/
(6) For Baiocis-Bay : 'The Pedigree Register' (edited by George Sherwood, vol 3, No. 33 (September 1915), 'Bye of Philadelphia', p294)
[The section on Savage of Bobbing Court has been absorbed by Savage01; that on Hunter alias Pery (Perry) has been moved to Perry3.]
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