'Talbot01'Index links to: Lead / Letter
Families covered: Talbot of Bashall, Talbot of Geinberge, Talbot of Richard's Castle, Talbot of Talbot, Talbot of Thornton, Talbot of Woodend (Wood End)

                               
(1) Visitation (Yorkshire,1563-4, Talbot I) contains an illustrious pedigree for the early generations of this family, indicating that a John Talbot came into England from Normandy with the Conqueror and married the daughter of a Rychard, Lord Talbot, descended from a John, Lord Talbot of Eclesfeld, etc.. However, that pedigree appears to be largely spurious. Similarly, Visitation (Worcestershire, 1569, Talbot) provides a pedigree going back 8 generations before the 1st Earl much of which appears spurious. Collins reports that this family is 'said to be in England before the Norman Conquest' but starts with the following Richard. TCP is cautious about the origins of this family, pointing out that Talbot was a common Norman nickname. [A talbot was a long-eared dog used for tracking and hunting. Any reference to someone as 'de Talbot' should probably be read as 'le Talbot'.] BE1883 starts with the following Richard but, apart from mentioning that his son Geoffrey was ancestor of the Talbots of Bashall (which TCP appears to disagree with), then follows the descent of his son Hugh
(2) On Temp44 we show the interesting additional connections shown by a large online database which we wish to investigate further but which we think important enough to draw attention to.
Richard Talbot (a 1085)
m. ?? de Gournay (dau of Gerard, Sire de Gournay, Lord of Yarmouth)
1. Geoffrey Talbot (d c1129/30)
  His family is as reported in a note to TCP (Munchensy of Norfolk).
  m. Agnes de Lacy (dau of Walter de Laci)
  A. Geoffrey Talbot (d 1140)
B. Sybil Talbot
  m. Payn FitzJohn of Ewyas, Sheriff of Hereford and Salop
2. Hugh Talbot (a 1118)
  m. (div) Beatrix de Mandeville (d 19.04.1197, dau of William de Mandeville)
A. Richard Talbot (d before 25.12.1175) first in the pedigree given by TCP (Talbot)
  m. _ Bulmer (dau of Stephen Bulmer of Appletreewick)
  i. Gilbert Talbot (d before 13.02.1230/1)
  a. Richard Talbot (d before 13.04.1234)
m. (before 1124) Aline or Aliva Basset (dau of Alan Basset, Baron of Wycombe, widow of Drew de Montacute)
  (1) Gilbert Talbot (d 1274)
  m. Gwendaline (dau of Rhys ap Griffith ap Rhys ap ap Griffith ap Rhys ap Tewdwr Mawr, King of South Wales)
  (A) Richard Talbot, lord of Eccleswall, Sheriff of Gloucester (d 1306)
  m. Sarah de Beauchamp (dau of William de Beauchamp of Elmley, 1st Earl of Warwick)
  (i) Sir Gilbert Talbot, 1st Baron, Lord Chamberlain (d 1346)
  m. Anne Boteler (dau of William Boteler of Wemme)
  (a) Sir Richard Talbot, 2nd Baron (d 1356)
  m. (before 1325) Elizabeth Comyn (b 1299, a 1326, dau of Sir John Comyn, Lord of Badenoch)
((1)) Gilbert Talbot, 3rd Baron (d 24.04.1387)
  m1. Petronilla Butler (d 1387, dau of James Butler, 1st Earl of Ormonde)
  ((A)) Sir Richard Talbot, 4th Baron (d 07.09.1396)
  m. Ankaret le Strange (dau of John Strange, 4th Lord of Blackmere)
  ((i)) Gilbert Talbot, 5th Baron, Lord Strange of Blackmere (b 1383, d 19.10.1418-9)
  m1. (before 20.05.1392) Joan Plantagenet (b 1384, d 16.08.1400, dau of Thomas Plantagenet, Duke of Gloucester)
  m2. (c1415) Beatrix of Portugal (m2. Thomas Fettiplace of East Shefford) see here
  ((a)) Ankaret Talbot, Baroness (b c1416, d unm 13.12.1431)
((ii)) Sir John Talbot, 1st Earl of Shrewbury (b 1390, d 20.07.1453)
  m1. (12.03.1406) Maud, Baroness Furnivall (d before 1433, dau of Thomas Nevill, Lord Furnival)
  m2. Margaret Beauchamp (dau of Richard de Beauchamp, 5th Earl of Warwick)
  ((iii)) Richard Talbot, Archbishop of Dublin, Lord Deputy of Ireland
  ((iv)) Thomas Talbot of Wrockwardine
  ((v)) Anne Talbot
  m. Hugh Courtenay, 4th Earl of Devon (b 1389, d 16.06.1422)
  ((vi)) Mary Talbot probably of this generation
m. Sir Thomas Greene of Green's Norton (d 1417)
  ((vii)) Alice Talbot probably of this generation
  m. (by 1410) Sir Thomas de la Barre (d c08.1420)
  ((B)) Elizabeth Talbot
  m. Sir Henry de Grey, 5th Lord of Wilton (d 1395)
  m2. Joan Stafford (dau of Ralph, Earl of Stafford)
  (ii) Sir Richard Talbot of Richard's Castle
  m. Joane Mortimer (dau of Hugh de Mortimer, Lord of Richard's Castle)
(a) Sir John Talbot of Richard's Castle
  m. Catherine
  ((1)) John Talbot of Richard's Castle (d 03.07.1388)
  ((2)) Elizabeth Talbot (d 03.08.1407)
  m. Sir Warine Archdekne
  ((3)) Philippa Talbot
  m1. (sp) Sir Matthew Gournay
  m2. Sir Robert Asheton
  m3. (sp) Sir John de Tiptoft, 1st Lord (of Powys) (d 1443, Chief Butler)
  ((4)) Eleanor Talbot, a nun
  (iii) Katherine Talbot (d before 04.1315)
  m. Sir Roger de Chandos of Snodhill, Sheriff of Glamorgan, 1st Lord (d 24.09.1353)
(iv) Gwenllim Talbot reportedly of this family, of this generation
  m. Payne de Turberville of Coity Castle
  (2) Richard de Talbot, 'Bishop of London' (d c1262)
  B. William Talbot this connection is given in Visitation (1666)
  i. Robert Talbot
  m. Ermentrude Ferrers (dau of Robert de Ferrers, lord of Egginton and Radbourne)
  a. William Talbot of Geinberge
  m. Alicia
  (1) Johanna Talbot
  m. Robert de Stuteville (son of William)
  b. John Talbot of Thorpe
  c. Gerard Talbot of Geinberge
  m. Eufemia
  (1) Richard Talbot of Geinberge
  d. Robert Talbot
  m. Matilda (who m2. Robert de Berevile)
Except where shown, the following is supported by a report in the forum of Genealogy.com which quotes from the book 'A History of the Original Parish of Whalle, and Honor of Clitheroe, in the Counties of Lancaster and York, to which is adjoined an Account of the Parish of Cartmell' by Thomas D. Whitaker, 1818.
  (1) Robert Talbot
  (2) Thomas Talbot,1st of Bashall (d c1274)
  m. Mathea name found in a web site
  (A) Sir Edmund Talbot of Bashall (d 1310)
  m. Joan Holand (dau of Robert de Holand)
  (i) Thomas Talbot of Bashall (a 1326) this generation omitted by the above-mentioned report
  (a) Edmund Talbot of Bashall (d 1372-3) this generation omitted by the above-mentioned report
((1)) Sir Thomas Talbot of Bashall (a 1393)
  m. Elizabeth Bellars (dau of James Bellars, son of Roger by Lettice, dau of Walter Prest of Melton Mowbray)
  The above-mentioned report inserts here an additional generation: Sir Edmund of Bashall who by Margaret, dau of Sir John Byrome, was father of ...
  ((A)) Sir Thomas Talbot of Bashall (d 1413) - continued below
  m. either Margaret (dau of Nigell de Halton of Halton) or Agnes (dau of Alan Catterall of Wigglesworth by Isabella, dau of Nigel Halton of Halton)
  ((B)) Henry Talbot
  ((C)) Richard Talbot
  m. Avelina
  ((i)) Peter Talbot
  ((D)) Maria Talbot (a 1390) possibly of this generation
  m. Sir Richard Tempest of Bracewell (b c1334, d c1386)
  ((2)) William Talbot (a 1395) probably of this generation
  (b) John Talbot
  (c) Margeria Talbot
  m. Thomas de Legh of Middleton
  (ii)+ other issue - Richard, John
  (B)+ other issue - Robert, Giles
  e. Ermentrude Talbot
  m1. Quintin Talbot of Wing (d c1210)
  m2. William de Grendon
  m3. Henry FitzGerald of Dudington
  (1) Alice FitzGerald
  m. Robert de Lisle
  ii.+ other issue - Roger, Silvester
  C. Hugh Talbot

 

 

Sir Thomas Talbot of Bashall (d 1413) - continued above
The above-mentioned report identifies Sir Thomas's wife as Margaret, daughter of Nigell de Halton of Halton. Dugdale identifies her as ...
m. Agnes Catterall (dau of Alan Catterall of Wigglesworth by Isabella, dau of Nigel Halton of Halton)
1. Sir Edmund Talbot of Bashall, Sheriff of Yorkshire (d 1462)
  m. Agnes Arden (dau of John Arderne)
A. Sir Thomas Talbot of Bashall (d 1498)
  m. Alice Tempest (dau of Sir John Tempest of Bracewell)
  i. Sir Thomas Talbot of Bashall (dsp)
  m. Florence Pudsey (dau of Henry Pudsey of Bolton)
  ii. Edmund Talbot of Bashall (d 1520)
  m1. Jane Harrington (dau of Sir Robert Harrington of the family of Hornby)
a. Thomas Talbot (d young)
  m2. Anne Hart (sister (not dau) of Sir Percevall Hart of Lullingston)
  b. Sir Thomas Talbot of Bashall (d 1559)
  m. Cicely Venables (dau of William Venables, baron of Kinderton)
  (1) Henry Talbot of Bashall (d 09.10.1570/1)
  m. Millicent Holcroft (dau of Sir John Holcroft of Holcroft)
(A) Thomas Talbot of Bashall, Sheriff of Lancashire (dsp after 1594)
  m. Elizabeth Bradley (dau of John Bradley of Bradley Hall)
  (B) John Talbot of Bashall (d 1615)
  m. Ursula Hammerton (dau of John Hammerton of Hellefield Peel)
  (i) Thomas Talbot of Bashall (d 25.02.1618)
  m. Anne Fleetwood (dau of Richard Fleetwood of Penwortham)
  (a) Elizabeth or Elinor Talbot (b 1613, d c1650)
  m1. Thomas Lewis of Marr
  m2. (after 09.1634) Theobald Bourke, 3rd Viscount Mayo (d 15.01.1653)
  (b) Margery Talbot
  m. William Whyte 'of Duffield, Derbyshire' (d c1660, Colonel)
The following connection comes from BLG1863 (Lloyd of Plymog, Gwerclas and Bashall).
  ((1)) Jane White (heir)
  m. Edward Ferrers
  ((A)) ?? Ferrers
  ((i)) William Ferrers of Bashall
  ((ii)) Dorothy Ferrers (coheir)
m. (1704) Richard Walmelsey of Coldcoates Hall
  (C) Alice Talbot possibly of this generation
  m. Edward Hippon of Newhall (bur 22.08.1588)
  (2) Jane Talbot possibly of this generation
  m. (1559) William Ffarington of Worden
  iii. John Talbot of Hymsworth, later of Thornton (d before 1540)
  m. Isabella Wortley (dau of Thomas Wortley)
  a. Nicholas Talbot
  (1) Anthony Talbot
  b. John Talbot of Thornton
  m. Elizabeth Lambert (dau of William Lambert of Oulton by Elizabeth, sister of Thomas Tempest)
  (1) Roger Talbot of Thornton (d 1588-9)
  m. Catherine Bate (d 1620, dau of William Bate of Dighton by Elizabeth, dau of Leonard Warcop of Tanfield)
(A) John Talbot of Thornton (d 1638)
  m. Jane Crosland (dau of John Crosland of Harum by Jane Clapham of Beaumesley
  (i) John Talbot of Thornton (d 1659)
  m. Jane Sothaby (dau of Roger Sothaby by Elizabeth, dau of Robert Hungate of Saxton)
  (a) Roger Talbot of Thornton (a 1666)
  m. Elizabeth Pudsey (dau of Ambrose Pudsey of Bolton)
  ((1))+ issue - John (d young), Robert (b c1659), Ambrose (b c1663), Benedicta, Jane, Elizabeth
  (b) John Talbot (a 1666, Captain)
  (c) Isabella Talbot (d 1663)
  m1. Richard Meynille
  m2. Thomas Meynille of Kilvington
(d) Maria Talbot
  m. Timothy Cleburne of Cleburne (dsp, son of Edward)
  (ii) Maria Talbot
  m. Christopher Fauconberge of Otterington
  (iii)+ other issue - Charles (d infant), Jane (d unm)
  (B) William Talbot of Knaton (d 1635)
  m. Alice
  (i) Roger Talbot (d 1664)
  (a) Roger Talbot (a 1666)
  (ii) Elizabeth Talbot
  m. George Metcalfe of Allerton (d 1642)
  (iii) Catherine Talbot
  m. William Pinkney of Silton
  (C) Michael Talbot of Danby
(i)+ issue - William, Roger
  (D) Thomas Talbot in Appleton
  m. Anna Ward (dau of Jacob Ward of Rokewith by Anna, dau of John Smith, son of George of Esh)
  (i) Francis Talbot (d 1643)
  (ii) Thomas Talbot (a 1666)
  m. Anna Rushworth (sister of John Rushworth) ## see here ##
  (iii) Anna Talbot
  m. William Kennet of Hunwick
  (iv) Elizabeth Talbot
  m1. Tobias Wright of Winaldston
  m2. William Blackett of Wodecross
(2) Richard Talbot of Woodend, Yorkshire (d 1634, youngest son)
  (A) ?? Talbot presumed intermediary generation, probably father of ...
  (i) Roger Talbot (d 1723)
  m. Frances Frankland (dau of Sir Thomas Frankland, 2nd Bart of Thirkleby)
  (a) Roger Talbot of Wood End (bpt 14.08.1713, dsp 07.03.1777, MP)
  m. Sarah Ward (dau of William Ward of York, widow of Sir Robert Fagg, 4th Bart)
  (b) Ann Talbot possibly of this generation
  m. John Turner of Stainsby
(3) Ann Talbot possibly of this family, of this generation
  m. Anthony Byerley of Pickhall (d 1619)
  (4)+ other issue - Anthony, Thomas
  c.+ other issue - Anthony, Roger
  iv. Anne Talbot
  m. Hugh Sherburne of Stonyhurst (d 06.06.1528-9)
  B. John Talbot
  m. Johanna Rythre (dau of John Rythre)
  C. Elizabeth Talbot
  m. John Boteler of Roucliffe
  D. Agnes Talbot
  m. John Crosby
2. John Talbot of Holt
3. Elizabeth Talbot
  m. (c1427) John Stanhope of Rampton

Main source(s): BP1934 (Shrewsbury), BE1883 (Talbot - various), Visitation (Surtees Society 1869, Yorkshire, Dugdale 1664-6, Talbot of Thorneton) with support from TCP (Talbot), Collins (1741, Talbot Earl of Shrewsbury).
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