'Rice2'
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Families covered: Rice of Bushmount, Rice of Dingle, Rice Lord Monteagle, Rice of Mount Rice, Rice of Mount Trenchard
| Edward Rice of Dingle l'Couch, co Kerry (a temp Henry VIII who r. 1509-1547) | |||||||||||||||
| m. Anne Wall (dau of John Wall of co Limerick) | |||||||||||||||
| 1. | Robert Rice of Dingle | ||||||||||||||
| m. Juliana Whyte (dau of Sir James Whyte of Cashel) | |||||||||||||||
| A. | Stephen Rice of Dingle (d 31.03.1623, MP) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Helen Trant (dau of Thomas Trant of Cahir Trant) | |||||||||||||||
| i. | James Rice 'of Ballymuddel' (d 24.02.1636, MP for Dingle) | ||||||||||||||
| ## BLG1886 & BLGI1912 identify James as ancestor of Lord Monteagle but his brother Dominick as ancestor of Sir Stephen of Mount Rice. However (with thanks to a regular contributor (CV, 06.11.15) for bringing this to our attention), Lodge (vol 3, 'St. Lawrence, Earl of Howth', p203+) provides the following which shows Sir Stephen as James's son. | |||||||||||||||
| m1. Eleanor White (dau of Robert White of Limerick) | |||||||||||||||
| m2. Phillis Fanning (dau of Edward Fanning, alderman of Limerick) | |||||||||||||||
| a. | Robert Rice | ||||||||||||||
| m. Joan Skiddy (dau of Nicholas Skiddy of Dingle) | |||||||||||||||
| b. | Sir Stephen Rice 'of Limerick' of Mount Rice, co Kildare (b c1637, d 02.1715/6, Chief Baron of the Exchequer in Ireland, 5th son) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Mary FitzGerald (bur 12.11.1726, dau of Thomas FitzGerald of Ballyhane by Mabel, dau of Sir Valentine Browne of Hospital) | |||||||||||||||
| (1) | Edward Rice of Mount Rice (d 21.05.1720) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (1716) Elizabeth St. Lawrence (d 1727, dau of Thomas St. Lawrence, 13th Lord Howth, m2. Dominick Quin of Quinsborough) | |||||||||||||||
| (A) | Stephen Rice (d infant) | ||||||||||||||
| (B) | Mary Rice | ||||||||||||||
| m1. (08.12.1739) William Degge (d 24.11.1741, Lt. Colonel) | |||||||||||||||
| (i) | Elizabeth Degge (b 22.04.1742, d young) | ||||||||||||||
| m2. (02.07.1743) Arthur Blenerhasset of Riddleton (judge) | |||||||||||||||
| m3. (21.06.1765) Dominick Trant (m2. Elena, dau of John Fitzgibbon, sister of Earl of Clare) | |||||||||||||||
| (2) | James Rice 'of Mount Rice' (d 02.08.1733) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (06.1722) Susannah O'Brien (dau of Henry O'Brien of Stonehall, m2. Augustine Ievers of Great Conall) | |||||||||||||||
| (A) | Stephen Rice of Mount Rice (b 04.01.1727, d 25.03.1755) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Charity Borrowes (dau of Robert Borrowes of Kildare, m2. Conway Richard Dobbs of Castle Dobbs) ## see here ## | |||||||||||||||
| (i) | Stephen Rice | ||||||||||||||
| m. Margaret Meredyth (dau of Joshua Meredyth of Claneygawnan) | |||||||||||||||
| (B) | James Rice (b after 02.08.1733, d 01.1768) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Mary Crowley | |||||||||||||||
| Lodge suggests that James's 3rd son Thomas d unm 14.12.1723. However, this appears to be the Thomas who is the first mentioned by BP1934 ('Monteagle'). TCP ('Monteagle of Brandon') starts with his son Stephen, and reports that Thomas, 1st Lord, "is said to have been of the same family as Sir Stephen Rice, Chief Baron of the Exchequer [I.}, who d. in 1715, but whether he was actually descended from him does not appear in the printed pedigree. Yet it is presumably in this belief that the title was chosen on the ground that an incomplete patent of a barony of Monteagle in favour of the Chief Baron is alleged to have been found". Wikipedia ("Thomas Spring Rice") suggests that the 1st Lord was a great-grandson of Sir Stephen whilst Wikipedia ("Stephen Rice (judge)") suggests that Sir Stephen's eldest son Edward was uncle to the Stephen who was father of the 1st Lord. That supports the view that it was James's son Thomas who was the grandfather of the 1st Lord. Nevertheless, we suggest that this be viewed with some caution as, however clear Wikipedia may be, TCP would normally be expected to have identified that relationship had it been proven. | |||||||||||||||
| (3) | Thomas Rice 'of Mount Trenchard' | ||||||||||||||
| BP1934 ('Monteagle') supports the following. | |||||||||||||||
| m. Mary FitzGerald (sister of Robert FitzGerald, Knight of Kerry) | |||||||||||||||
| (A) | Stephen Edward Rice of Mount Trenchard, co Limerick (d 1831) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (10.08.1785) Catherine Spring (dau/heir of Thomas Spring of Castlemain 'of Ballycrispin') | |||||||||||||||
| (i) | Thomas Spring Rice, 1st Lord Monteagle of Brandon (b 08.02.1790, d 07.02.1866, Chancellor of the Exchequer) had issue | ||||||||||||||
| m1. (11.07.1811) Theodosia Pery (d 12.1839, dau of Edmond Henry (Pery), 1st Earl of Limerick) | |||||||||||||||
| m2. (13.04.1841, sp) Mary Anne Marshall (b 1789-90, d 11.04.1889, dau of John Marshall of Hallsteads) | |||||||||||||||
| (ii) | Ann Rice (d unm 1829) | ||||||||||||||
| (iii) | Mary Rice | ||||||||||||||
| m. (1807) Sir Aubrey de Vere, Bart | |||||||||||||||
| The following connection was kindly brought to our attention by a contributor (CV, 06.11.15) . | |||||||||||||||
| (B) | Christina Mary Rice (d c1843) | ||||||||||||||
| m1. Robert Collins | |||||||||||||||
| m2. (20.10.1782) George Fosbery of Clorane & Kildimo, co. Limerick (d 17.07.1791) | |||||||||||||||
| (4) | Honora Rice | ||||||||||||||
| m. (10.1700) James Daly (son/heir of Denis of Carrownekelly) | |||||||||||||||
| (5) | Alice Rice (nun) | ||||||||||||||
| c. | Eleanor Rice | ||||||||||||||
| m. John Creagh of Limerick | |||||||||||||||
| d.+ | other issue - Andrew, Nicholas, Bartholomew, James, Anthony, Thomas, Mary, Catharine | ||||||||||||||
| ii. | Dominick Rice (a 1635, MP for Dingle) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Alice Hussey (dau of James Hussey, baron of Galtrim) | |||||||||||||||
| (1) BLG1886 & BLGI1912 identify Dominick as ancestor of Sir Stephen of Mount Rice, Lord Chief Baron, but do not follow his line. Note the contradiction above ## where BLG1886 & BLGI1912 identify Dominick's elder brother James as ancestor of Lord Monteagle. (2) BLG1886 indicates that the above Dominick was ancestor of the following Dominick. BLGI1912 reports the above connections (to Chief Baron Stephen and Lord Montagle) and then merely mentions the following Dominick somewhat disconnectedly. Noting that it is a little presumptuous, provisionally we show the above Dominick as father (or grandfather) of ... |
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| a. | Dominick Rice of Dingle | ||||||||||||||
| m. Mary Rice (cousin) | |||||||||||||||
| (1) | Dominick Rice of Taulaght & Racanny (b c1720, a 1755) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Mary Collis (dau/coheir of John Collis of Taulaght) | |||||||||||||||
| (A) | John Rice of Ballymacawhim Castle, co Kerry (b 1754, d 1788) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (1784) Elizabeth Carey (b 1745, d 05.1826, dau of Monckton Carey of Dromartin (son of Tristram by Elizabeth, dau of Major Nicholas Monckton of Kilmore), widow of John Payne of Tralee) | |||||||||||||||
| (i) | Dominick Rice of Bushmount co Kerry (b 25.09.1785, d 08.02.1864) had issue | ||||||||||||||
| m. (1807) Frances Griffin (b 1783-4, d 25.05.1876, dau/heir of Justice Griffin of Lacca & cousin of Henry, Bishop of Limerick & Ardfert) | |||||||||||||||
| (B) | Elizabeth Rice | ||||||||||||||
| m. Francis Eagar of Cuel | |||||||||||||||
| (2) | John Rice of Dingle (a 03.1753, dsp) | ||||||||||||||
| (3) | Joan Rice | ||||||||||||||
| m. _ Rice of Dingle (cousin) | |||||||||||||||
| (A) | Dominick Rice | ||||||||||||||
| (4) | Mary Rice | ||||||||||||||
| m. John Lawlor of Lackamore | |||||||||||||||
| (5) | Barbara Rice | ||||||||||||||
| m. _ Brunton | |||||||||||||||
Main source(s): BLG1886 (Rice of Bushmount), BLGI1912 (Rice of Bushmount) with input/support as reported above
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