'TZmisc04'Index links to: Lead / Letter
Families covered: Tytler of Corsindae, Fraser-Tytler of Balnain, Tytler of Woodhouselee, Thornborough of Hampsfield, Tredcroft of Horsham, Toler of Beechwood (Graige), Toler of Norbury

                               
Thanks to a site visitor (CV, 22.10.13) for:
(1) advising us that "The Scottish Nation; or the Surnames, Families, Literature, Honours and Biographical History of the People of Scotland" by William Anderson (1863) reports of the following family that "The family name originally was Seton, that of Tytler having been assumed by the ancestor of the family, a cadet of the noble house of Seton, who temp. James IV., in a sudden quarrel at a hunting match, slew a gentleman of the name of Gray, fled to France, and changed his name to Tytler. His two sons returned to Scotland in the train of Queen Mary in 1561, and from the elder the families of Balnain and Woodhouselee descend";
(2) providing us with the extract from MGH which enabled us to expand what we have on this family (later expanded further by the support from the Leslie source identified below).
Alexander Tytler of Corsindae (b c1600, d 25.03.1690)
m. Margaret Martin (d 16.06.1681)
1. William Tytler
  A. Alexander Tytler in Edinburgh (b 01.01.1678, d 16.12.1743, WS) the first mentioned by BLG21952
  The following is supported also by 'Historical Records of the Family of Leslie from 1067 to 1868-9' (vol 3, p413) by Colonel Leslie of Balquhain although that suggests that Alexander was eldest son of John Tytler (by Barbara Skene) whom we show below as Alexander's cousin.
  m. Jane Leslie (dau of William Leslie of Aberdeen, son of Sir Patrick of Iden)
  i. William Tytler of Woodhouselee (b 12.10.1711, 2nd son)
m. Anne Craig (dau of James Craig of Dalnair)
  a. Alexander Tytler of Woodhouselee, later Fraser-Tytler of Balnain (b 1747, d 1812-3, Senator as Lord Woodhouselee)
  The following is supported also by 'History of the rasers' (Alexander Mackenzie, 1896, p571+).
  m. (1776) Anne Fraser (dau of William Fraser of Balnain & Aldourie)
  (1) William Tytler or Fraser-Tytler of Balnain (b 09.1777, d 04.09.1853) had issue
  m. (10.03.1801) Margaret Cussans Grant (dau/heir of George Grant of Burdsyard)
  (2) James Fraser Tytler of Woodhouselee (b 09.10.1780, d 1862) had issue
  m. (1810) Elizabeth Carmichael (dau of Maurice Carmichael of Eastend & Symington)
(3) Patrick Tytler or Fraser-Tytler (b 1791, d 1849, historian) had issue
  m1. Rachel Hogg (d 1835, dau of Thomas Hogg of Newliston)
  m2. (sp) Anastasia Bonar (dau of Thomson Bonar of Campden Place)
  (4) Jane Fraser Tytler (d 23.10.1861)
  m. (04/14.09.1823) James Baillie Fraser, 15th of Reelig (b 11.06.1783, dsp 23.01.1856)
  (5)+ other issue - Alexander (dsps), Anne (b 1781-2, d unm 03.09.1857), Isabella (d unm)
b. Patrick Tytler probably the Lt. Colonel Patrick who married ...
  m. Isabella Erskine (dau of James Erskine of Barjarg & Alva, Lord of Session)
  (1) Elizabeth Glencairn Tytler (d 05.10.1874, youngest daughter) apparently of this generation
  m. (21.03.1825) Sir Archibald Alison, 1st Bart (b 29.12.1792, d 23.05.1867)
  ii.+ other issue - Alexander (b 02.10.1704, dsp in Jamaica), 3 daughters
2. James Tytler of Corsindae (b 1646, d 02.04.1736)
  m. Jean Middleton (b 1646, d 1727)
  A. John Tytler of Aberdeen (b 1680, d 23.01.1762)
  m. Barbara Skene (b 04.07.1676, d 22.11.1723, dau of John Skene of Skene of that ilk)
  i. George Tytler (b 1706, d 29.07.1785, minister of Premnay then Fearn)
  m. (22.10.1734) Janet Robertson (d 21.07.1795)
  a. James Tytler (b 17.12.1745, d 1805, chemist, balloonist, encyclopedist, 2nd son)
  Wikipedia has an article on James Tytler (d 11.01.1804), clearly the same person, suggesting that he married Elizabeth Rattray and had several children. The following comes from MGH.
  m1. _ Young (siser of a WS)
  (1) Jane Tytler
  m. _ Robertson
  m2. _ Cairns (sister of Jno. Cairns of Edinburgh)
  m3. _ Aikenhead
  b. Henry William Tytler of Brechin & Cape of Good Hope (b 04.04.1753, d 24.08.1808)
  m. Christiana Gillies (d 1825, dau of Robert Gillies of Little Beithock, sister of John (the historian) & Lord Gillies (judge Adam))
  (1) Robert Tytler (b 17.11.1787, d 17.03.1838) had issue
  m. Elizabeth (b 21.12.1774, d 14.10.1852, dau of Count Schneeberg)
  (2) John Tytler (b 26.09.1790, d 05.03.1837) had issue
  m. (12.07.1818) Anne Gillies (d c1854, dau of William Gillies of London)
  (3) Margaret Tytler (d unm 11.1822)
  c.+ other issue - George (b 04.05.1737), Barbara (b 10.08.1735), Mary (d infant)

 

 

FMG (vol 3, Gilpin) mentions a Dorothy, dau of Sir Rowland Thornborough of Hempsfell, who married Richard Gilpin and had grandchildren who were born around 1500-20. It is presumed that he was closely connected to the following family.
Henry Thornborough
1. William Thornborough of Selside
m. Ellinor Musgrave (dau of Sir Richard Musgrave)
  A. William Thornborough of Hampsfield in Craven, Yorkshire
  m. Elizabeth Broughton (dau of Sir Thomas Broughton)
  i. Rowland Thornborough of Hampsfield
  m. Margaret Middleton (dau of Sir Geoffrey Middleton of Westmorland)
a. Rowland Thornborough (2nd son)
  Visitation ends with this generation. This is possibly the Rowland of Hampsfield who married ...
  m. Jane Dalton (dau of Thomas Dalton of Thurnham)
  (1) Anne Thornborough
  m. Henry Bigland of Grange (b 1607)
  b. Anne Thornborough shown by various web sites as the Anne who married ...
  m. Thomas Warcop of Smardale
  c.+ other issue - William, Elizabeth, Alice
  ii. Nicholas Thornborough
  iii. Anne Thornborough
  m. Thomas Preston (d 1523)
  iv. Elizabeth Thornborough
  m. William Kirkby
  v. Ellinor Thornborough
  m. Richard Curwen
  vi. Isabel Thornborough
  m. (1517) William Clifton

 

 

Robert or Edward Tredcroft of Horsham, Sussex (d 07.10.1558) named Robert by Berry, Edward by BLG1886
1. Robert Tredcroft
  m. Anne Middleton of Hillsplace, Horsham
  A. Robert Tredcroft (bpt 10.12.1598)
  i. Nathaniel Tredcroft (d 23.09.1696, minister of Horsham)
  m. (11.09.1666) Phoebe Philips
  a. Nathaniel Tredcroft of Horsham (b 27.04.1674, d 27.10.1720, 2nd son)
  m. Elizabeth Scrase (d 22.08.1718, dau/heir of William Scrase of Steyning)
  (1) Edward Tredcroft of Horsham (b 30.11.1711, d 12.08.1768)
  m. Mary Michel (b c1614, d 20.04.1794, dau/heir of Henry Michel of Horsham)
  (A) Nathaniel Tredcroft of Horsham (b 18.11.1747, d 03.04.1825)
m. (11.10.1781) Sarah Steel (d 22.11.1823, dau of Thomas Steel of Hampnett, sister of Rt. Hon. Thomas)
  (i) Henry Tredcroft of Warnham Court, Horsham (b 28.01.1790, d 14.02.1844) had issue
  m. (13.12.1827) Mary Crewe (dau of Robert Hawgood Crewe, relict of James Eversfield of Denne Park)
  (ii) Robert Tredcroft (b 03.12.1791, rural dean, rector of Tangmer & West Ichenor, vicar of Fittleworth) had issue
  m. (03.08.1824) Frances Katherine Brooke-Pechell (dau of Sir T. Brooke-Pechell, Bart, by Charlotte Clavering)
  (iii) Charlotte Tredcroft (d 08.1853)
  m. George King of Fryern (cousin)
  (iv) Sarah Tredcroft
m. Sherrington Gilder
  (v)+ other issue - Nathaniel (d 1795), George (a 1828)
  (B) Phoebe Phillips Tredcroft
  m. (22.11.1769) Peter Du Cane
  (C) Charlotte Tredcroft (d 25.10.1829)
  m. (29.11.1774) Peter King, 6th Lord
  (D)+ other issue - Edward William (b 01.11.1749, d unm 04.08.1822, rector of Pulborough), Mary
  (2) Mary Tredcroft
  m. (03.07.1733) Rev. Theobald Michel of Horsham
  (3)+ other issue - Nathaniel (b 15.01.1716, d 16.04.1773), William Philips (b 28.05.1718)
  b. Philip Tredcroft (b 26.08.1681, d 22.09.1755, youngest son)
  m. (13.02.1737) Mary Michel (d 17.03.1746)
  c.+ other issue - Nathaniel (b 21.04.1670, d infant), john (b 16.03.1676), John (b 01.11.1677, d 05.06.1718, rector of West Grinstead), Phoebe (b 15.01.1666, d infant), Mary (b 12.04.1672), Phoebe (b 05.08.1684), Anne 9b 31.07.1688)
  ii. Elizabeth Tredcroft
  m. (04.09.1656) Henry Nye

 

 

Nicholas Toler of Graige, co. Tipperary
1. Daniel Toler of Graige (aka Beechwood) (d c1756, 3rd son)
  m1. Helena Maria Purdon (dau of Symon Purdon of Tinerana)
  A. Helena Maria Toler
  m. (18.06.1745) Richard Maunsell of Ballywilliam
  B.+ other issue (d unm) - Nicholas (dvp after 1732), Eleanor (d 1775)
  m2. Letitia Otway (d 17.02.1794, dau of Thomas (sb Henry?) Otway of Castle Otway)
  D. Daniel Toler of Beechwood, Sheriff of co. Tipperary (b 1739, d 06.1796)
  m. (11.1760) Rebecca Minchin (d 09.1800, dau of Paul Minchin of Bogh)
  i. Daniel Minchin Toler, Sheriff of co. Tipperary (a 1794, dvp unm)
ii. Harriet Toler
  m. Sir Henry Osborne, Bart
  iii. Sarah Toler
  m. (1786) Robert Curtis of Inane
  iv. Eliza Toler
  m. (1798) Thomas Taylor Rowley of Maperath
  E. John Toler, 1st Baron Norbury, 1st Earl of Norbury (b 03.12.1785, d 27.07.1831, Chief Justice)
  m. (02.06.1778) Grace Graham, 1st Baroness Norwood of Knockalton (d 21.07.1822, dau of Hector Graham by Isabella, dau of Robert Maxwell of Fellows Hall)
  i. Daniel Toler, 2nd Baron Norwood, 2nd Baron Norbury (d unm 30.01.1832)
  ii. Hector John Toler, later Graham-Toler, 2nd Earl of Norbury (b 27.06.1781, d 03.01.1839) had issue
  By special remainder, Hector inherited the earldom rather than his elder brother.
  m. (01.01.1808) Elizabeth Brabazon (d 25.08.1859, dau of William Brabazon (brother of Sir Anthony 1st Bart) by Elizabeth Phibbs)
  iii. Isabella Toler
  iv. Letitia Toler
  m. (08.03.1813) William Browne of Browne's Hill
BLG1886 (Brinkley of Portland) provides the following except that it makes no mention of the Bishop's parentage. Wikipedia ("Bishop John Brinkley") provides the suggestion that he was the Earl's illegitimate son by ...
  p. Sarah Brinkley ("a butcher's daughter")
  v. John Brinkley, Bishop of Cloyne (b 1766, d 09.1835, Astronomer Royal in Ireland)
  m. Esther Weld (dau of Matthew Weld of Dublin)
  a. John Brinkley (d 14.02.1847, rector of Glanworth) had issue
m. Anne Stephens (dau/coheir of Rev. Walter Stephens of Hybla by Arabella, dau of Capt. William Glascott son of George of Aldertown)
  b. Mathew Brinkley of Parsonstown, co. Meath (b 02.03.1796, d 27.04.1855) had issue
  m. (05.03.1821) Harriet Graves (dau of Richard Graves, Dean of Ardagh)
  c. Sarah Brinkley (dsp)
  m. Robert James Graves
  F. Catherine Toler (d 1797)
  m. (20.01.1758) John Green of Old Abbey
  G. Phoebe Toler (d 1803)
  m. (1765) John Head of Ashley Park
  H.+ other issue (dsp) - Henry, Otway (d 21.05.1807)

Main source(s):
(1) For Tytler (uploaded 14.09.06, expanded 24.10.13 & 28.03.15) : MGH (possibly from Series 5, vol 2, 1916-17), BLG1952 (Fraser-Tytler formerly of Woodhouselee)
(2) For Thornborough of Hampsfield (uploaded 27.10.07) : Visitation (Yorkshire, 1584/5, Thornborough of Hampsfield)
(3) For Tredcroft (uploaded 26.05.09) : BLG1886 (Tredcroft of Horsham Manor), CountyGen (Sussex, Berry) with some support from Commoners (vol 4, Scrase-Dickins of Sussex)
(4) For Toler (uploaded 10.06.09) : BP1934 (Norbury) with input as reported above
[The information on the Thweng family has been moved to Thweng1.]
[The section on Thornhurst has been moved to Temp24.]

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