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Families covered: Savage of Cardington, Savage of Clifton, Savage of Edwall, Savage of Rhebane, Savage of Stainesby
Sir John Savage of Stainesby & Clifton (d 1386) | |||||||||||||||
m. (c1376) Margaret Daniers, heiress of Clifton (dau of Sir Thomas Daniers (or Daniel) of Bradley) | |||||||||||||||
1. | Sir John Savage of Clifton (d 01.08.1450) | ||||||||||||||
m. (before 1409) Maud Swinnerton (dau/heir of Sir Robert Swinnerton of Barrow, Rushton & Austenfield) | |||||||||||||||
A. | John Savage of Clifton and Stainesby | ||||||||||||||
m. Elizabeth (or Elenor) Brereton (dau of Sir William Brereton of Brereton) named Elizabeth by Armstrong, Elenor by Visitation, not named by Ormerod/BE1883 | |||||||||||||||
i. | Sir John Savage of Clifton (b c1422, d 22.11.1495) | ||||||||||||||
m. Catherine Stanley (dau of Thomas Stanley, 1st Lord, sister of Thomas, 1st Earl of Derby) | |||||||||||||||
a. | Sir John Savage of Clifton (dvp Bologne) | ||||||||||||||
m. Dorothy Vernon (dau of Sir Ralph Vernon) | |||||||||||||||
(1) | Sir John Savage of Clifton 'of Frodsham', Sheriff of Worcestershire (d 02.03.1527) | ||||||||||||||
m. Anne Bostock (dau of Raufe Bostock of Bostock) | |||||||||||||||
(A) | Sir John Savage of Clifton (b 1492-3, d 27.07.1528) | ||||||||||||||
m. Elizabeth Somerset (d 1545, dau of Charles Somerset, 1st Earl of Worcester) | |||||||||||||||
(B) | Lawrence Savage of Walgrave, Staffordshire (4th son) | ||||||||||||||
m. Mary Egerton (dau/heir of Randal Egerton of Walgrave) | |||||||||||||||
(i) | John Savage of Walgrave and Whaddon (Buckinghamshire) | ||||||||||||||
m. Amy Washington named by Visitation | |||||||||||||||
(a) | Sir Arthur Savage of Rhebane (co. Kildare) & Cardington (d 13.03.1633, MP) | ||||||||||||||
The following is partly supported by Visitation (Bedfordshire, 1634, Savage of Cardington). | |||||||||||||||
m1. Jane Stafford (dau of Thomas Stafford of Tottenhoo/Tatttenhow) named by Visitation | |||||||||||||||
((1)) | Sir Thomas Savage of Cardington & Castle Rabon (a 1634) | ||||||||||||||
m. Dowglas Snagg (dau of Sir Thomas Snagg of Maston Morton) | |||||||||||||||
((A))+ | issue (a 1634) - Francis (b c1625), Doiwglas | ||||||||||||||
((2)) | William Savage 'of Castle Rheban' (d 04.12.1634, 4th son) | ||||||||||||||
m. Frances Weldon (dau of Walter Weldon of St. John's Bower) mother of Frances, presumed also of ... | |||||||||||||||
((A)) | Sarah Savage (b 10.1629) | ||||||||||||||
((B)) | Jane Savage (b c1630) | ||||||||||||||
Armstrong suggests that it was this Jane who m. Henry Burrowes but that Jane must have been at least one generation earlir. | |||||||||||||||
((C)) | Frances Savage (b c12.1628, d 02.11.1701) | ||||||||||||||
m. Sir Lawrence Parsons of Birr Castle | |||||||||||||||
((3)) | Jane Savage possibly of this generation | ||||||||||||||
m. Henry Borrowes (d 1614) | |||||||||||||||
((4)) | Elenor Savage possibly of this generation | ||||||||||||||
m. Osborne Itchingham (d 07.1655) | |||||||||||||||
((5))+ | other issue - John, Henry, Edmund, Elizabeth | ||||||||||||||
m2. Sarah Sewester (widow of _ Smythes, alderman of London) | |||||||||||||||
((9)) | Jane Savage mentioned by Visitation (Bedfordshire) | ||||||||||||||
m. Francis Ewar of Bucknell | |||||||||||||||
(b) | Elizabeth Savage mentioned by Visitation (Cheshire) | ||||||||||||||
m. Walter Wilcocks | |||||||||||||||
(c) | Anne Savage mentioned by Visitation (Cheshire) | ||||||||||||||
(C) | Richard Savage 'of Piddle Hinton & Bloxworth' | ||||||||||||||
It is not certain that this Richard was the Richard of Piddle Hinton & Bloxworth who married ... | |||||||||||||||
m. Agnes Willis of Piddle Hinton | |||||||||||||||
(D) | Ann Savage (b c1506, d 10.1564) | ||||||||||||||
Armstrong & Ormerod both identify Ann's husband as Henry, Lord Berkeley, but Visitation appears to be correct in naming him ... | |||||||||||||||
m. (1533) Thomas, Lord Berkeley (of Berkeley Castle) | |||||||||||||||
(E)+ | other issue - Edward, George, Robert, Thomas | ||||||||||||||
Note A. There is much confusion regarding the generation-attribution of various of the daughters of various of the John Savages of Clifton. We have tried to use dates and common sense to attribute them correctly but where there is doubt we prefer to show them a generation earlier rather than later as otherwise people may presume an additional maternal line that turns out to be irrelevant. However, whilst some time was spent on this, more time is needed to gain full comfort on it so this is all subject to review in due course. Any comments on this, from anyone who has studied the matter, would be welcome! | |||||||||||||||
(2) | Alice Savage m. Sir William Brereton, shown a generation earlier, see Note B below | ||||||||||||||
(3) | Felicia Savage see Note B below | ||||||||||||||
m. Robert Milwood of Eaton Milwood by Armstrong, Milward by Ormerod | |||||||||||||||
(4) | Ellen Savage see Note B below | ||||||||||||||
m. John Hawarden | |||||||||||||||
(5) | Maude Savage possibly 2nd wife of ... | ||||||||||||||
m. Sir Robert Needham (the Robert who d 1556??) | |||||||||||||||
(6) | Anne Savage see Note B below, mentioned only by Visitation | ||||||||||||||
m. _ Hampden | |||||||||||||||
Note B. Armstrong & Ormerod both show 4 daughters for John & Dorothy: Alice (m. Sir William Brereton - shown a generation earlier), Felicia (m. Robert Milwood/Milward), Ellen (m. John Hawarden) & Maude (m. Sir Robert Needham). The only child named by BE1883 in this generation was the eldest son, John. Visitation names 3 daughters Alice (m. Sir William Brereton - shown a generation earlier), Isabel (m. _ Needham, presumed sb Maude not Isabel) & Anne (m. _ Hampden). | |||||||||||||||
partner unknown. | |||||||||||||||
Visitation (Cheshire, 1580, Boner's Pedigree) supports Armstrong's & Ormerod's reports that Sir John had a bastard son, George, reporting that George "begatt these 7 bastards by 3 sundry women". | |||||||||||||||
(7) | George Savage (parson of Davenham or Dunham) | ||||||||||||||
p1. _ Winslow | |||||||||||||||
(A) | John Winslow (Archdeacon of Middlesex) | ||||||||||||||
(B) | Elizabeth | ||||||||||||||
m. _ Clayton of Shelwall | |||||||||||||||
p2. _ Dyes of Barrow | |||||||||||||||
(C) | Randle Savage of the Lodge | ||||||||||||||
(D) | Margaret | ||||||||||||||
m. __ Hayes of Litley | |||||||||||||||
p3. Elizabeth Frodsham (m. Edmund Bonner) | |||||||||||||||
(E) | Edmund Bonner, Bishop of London | ||||||||||||||
Ormerod suggests that the following were also children by Elizabeth Frodsham, being named in the Visitation but not by either Ormerod or Armstrong. | |||||||||||||||
(F)+ | other issue - George (Chancellor of Chester), Ellen | ||||||||||||||
b. | Thomas Savage, Archbishop of York (d 1508) | ||||||||||||||
c. | Sir Edmund Savage, Mayor of Macclesfield (d Flodden 09.1513, 6th son) | ||||||||||||||
BE1883 suggests that Sir Edmund was knighted in 05.1544 but Armstrong suggests that he fell at Flodden and that it was his son who was knighted in 1544. | |||||||||||||||
m. Mary Sparke (dau./heir of William Sparke of Surrey, widow of Roger Leigh del Ridge) | |||||||||||||||
(1) | Sir Edmund Savage (a 05.1544) | ||||||||||||||
d. | Sir Christopher Savage of Upton (7th son) | ||||||||||||||
m. Anne Stanley (dau of Sir John Stanley of Elfford) | |||||||||||||||
e. | George Savage (9th son) who apparently married ... | ||||||||||||||
m. Margery Strangeways (dau of Sir Richard Strangeways) | |||||||||||||||
f. | Elizabeth Savage see Note C below | ||||||||||||||
m. John Hampden of Hampden (d 24.12.1553) | |||||||||||||||
g. | Alice Savage see Note C below, shown by Armstrong, Ormerod & Visitation a generation later | ||||||||||||||
m. Sir William Brereton of Brereton (bur 04.02.1541) | |||||||||||||||
h. | Ellen Savage see Note C below | ||||||||||||||
m. (1467) Peter Legh of Lyme (d 11.08.1527) | |||||||||||||||
i. | Katherine Savage see Note C below, shown by Armstrong a generation later | ||||||||||||||
m. Thomas Legh of Adlington (b 1452) | |||||||||||||||
j. | Margaret Savage see Note C below | ||||||||||||||
Margaret is shown by Armstrong a generation earlier but by Ormerod (vol 1), BE183 and (possibly) Visitation as of this generation. Ormerod (Cheshire, vol 3, Honford and Brereton of Honford) suggests that she m2. William Honford (d 09.1513) but the dates do not support that given that she had 2 children by Edmund. Provisionally we show the Margaret who m. William Honford a generation earlier.. | |||||||||||||||
m. Edmund Trafford of Trafford (d 1514) | |||||||||||||||
k. | Elizabeth Savage see Note C below, shown by Armstrong a generation earlier | ||||||||||||||
m. John Leeke or Leake of Sutton (son of William of Longford) | |||||||||||||||
l. | Anne Savage possibly of this generation, not mentioned by any of our Main Sources | ||||||||||||||
m. Lewis (Ludovic) Eyton of Eyton (a 1501) | |||||||||||||||
m. | daughter mentioned only be Visitation | ||||||||||||||
m. Sir Thomas Waterton | |||||||||||||||
n. | Dowse (or Dulcia) Savage possibly of this generation | ||||||||||||||
Armstrong shows Dowse 3 generations earlier whilst Visitation shows an Alice (m. Sir Henry Bold of Bold) 2 generations earlier! However, the dates make it look as though Dowse was of this generation. | |||||||||||||||
m. (1464) Sir Henry Bold of Bold (d by 1497) | |||||||||||||||
o.+ | other issue - Sir Humfrey, Sir Laurence, James (Archdeacon of Chester), William, Sir Richard | ||||||||||||||
Note C. Armstrong shows 2 daughters for John & Katherine: Elizabeth (m. Sir John Hampden) & Alice (m. Sir William Brereton). Ormerod & BE1883 both show 5 daughters: Ellen (m. Peter Legh of Lyme), Katherine (m. Thomas Legh of Adlington), Margaret (m. Edmund Trafford), Alice (m. Roger Pilkington - see Ann below, a generation earlier) & Elizabeth (m. John Leeke). Visitation shows 6 daughters: unnamed (m. Sir Thomas Waterton), Elizabeth (m. _ Leake), unnamed (m. Sir Edward Trafford sb Edmund, husband of Margaret?), Elenor (m. Sir Piers Leigh), Katherin (m. Thomas Leigh of Adlington), Alice (m. Roger Pilkenton - see Ann below, a generation earlier). | |||||||||||||||
ii. | Eleanor Savage see Note D below | ||||||||||||||
m. (1467) Sir Piers Leigh of Lyme | |||||||||||||||
iii. | Elizabeth Savage m. John Leake, see Note D below, shown a generation later | ||||||||||||||
iv. | Helen Savage see Note D below, shown by Visitation a generation earlier | ||||||||||||||
m. Peter Warberton of Arley (d c1495) | |||||||||||||||
v. | Ann Savage see Note D below & Note C above, Ormerod, BE1883 & Visitation show an Alice (m. Roger Pilkington) a generation later | ||||||||||||||
m. Sir Roger Pilkington | |||||||||||||||
vi. | Margeret (or Jane?) Savage | ||||||||||||||
See Note D below and the note above for the Margaret shown as a generation later. We suspect that this may be the Jane, mentioned only by Visitation as m. John Hanford, whose husband was in fact ... | |||||||||||||||
m. William Honford of Honford (d 09.1513) | |||||||||||||||
vii. | Katherine Savage m. Thomas Leigh of Adlington, see Note D below, shown a generation later | ||||||||||||||
viii. | Margery Savage see Note D below, probably one of the 'Marrgetts' shown a generation later by Visitation | ||||||||||||||
m1. Edmund Leigh of Baggeley (d c1475) | |||||||||||||||
m2. (1477) Thomas Leycester of Nether Tabley | |||||||||||||||
Note D. Armstrong mentions 6 daughters of John & Elizabeth: Eleanor (m. Sir Piers Leigh of Lyme), Elizabeth (m. John Leake - we show a generation later), Helein (m. Peter Warberton), Ann (m. Sir Roger Pilkington), Margaret (m. Sir Edward Trafford - we show a generation later but see 'other' Margaret above) & Katherine (m. Thomas Leigh of Adlington - we show a generation later). Ormerod & BE1883 both name 2 daughters: Margery (m1. Edmund Leigh of Baggiley, m2. Thomas Leycester), Margaret (m1. John Maxfeld, m2. Randle Manwaring - we show 2 generations earlier an Elizabeth who had these husbands). Visitation names a different 2 daughters: Margrett (m. Sir William Stanley - see Mary a generation earlier below) & Jane (m. John Hanford, possibly confused with Margaret shown above as m. William Honford?). | |||||||||||||||
B. | Margaret Savage see Note E below, shown by Armstrong as a generation earlier | ||||||||||||||
m. (1418) John Dutton of Dutton (d 1445, son of Sir Piers) | |||||||||||||||
C. | Maude Savage see Note E below, shown by Armstrong as a generation earlier | ||||||||||||||
m. Sir Thomas Booth of Barton | |||||||||||||||
D. | Mary Savage see Note E below, a Margrett (m. Sir William Stanley) is shown by Ormerod & BE1883 a generation later | ||||||||||||||
m. (1424) Sir William Stanley of Stourton and Hooton (b 1406, d 1461) | |||||||||||||||
C. | Beatrix Savage see Note E below, possible duplication/confusion with Lucy shown by Armstrong a generation earlier | ||||||||||||||
m. Sir Hamnett Carrington | |||||||||||||||
E.+ | other issue - William, Arnold, George, Roger | ||||||||||||||
Note E. Armstrong does not name any children of John & Maud other than John, the eldest son. BE1883 & Ormerod both mention 2 daughters: Margaret (m. John Dutton) & Maude (m. Sir Thomas Booth). Visitation shows 9 daughters: Margrett 1: (m1. Sir John Maxfeld m2. Randoll Manwaring - we show a generation earlier an Elizabeth who had these husbands), Ellin (m. Peter Warburton - we show a generation later), Margrett 2 (m. Edw. Leigh of Baguley - see Margery a generation later (above)), Alice (m. Sir Henry Bold - see Dowse 2 generations later), Maud (m. Sir John Booth of Barton), Blanch (m. Sir Thomas Carrington - we show a generation earlier), Beatrix (m. Sir Hamnett Carrington), Anne (m. Charles Nowell - we show a generation earlier), Parnell (m. Reynold Leigh of Blackbrooke - shown a generation earlier). | |||||||||||||||
2. | Arthur or Arnold Savage (3rd son) named Arthur by Armstrong, Arnold by Ormerod/BE1883 | ||||||||||||||
A. | John Savage of Edwall, Derbyshire (a 1461) | ||||||||||||||
i. | Thomas Savage of Edwall | ||||||||||||||
m. _ Eire (dau of Robert Eire of Hilton) | |||||||||||||||
a. | John Savage of Edwall 'of Castleton' (d 1596-7 or 1605?) | ||||||||||||||
m. Alice Stafford (dau/heir of Humphrey Stafford of Eyam) | |||||||||||||||
(1) | Humphrey Savage (dvp) | ||||||||||||||
m. Jane Barber (dau of Edward Barber) | |||||||||||||||
(A) | Humphrey Savage of Edwall (a 1603) | ||||||||||||||
(i) | Humphrey Savage (a 1630) | ||||||||||||||
(2)+ | 6 sons & 2 daughters | ||||||||||||||
ii. | John Savage | ||||||||||||||
Note F. Except as reported otherwise, the following are mentioned only by Armstrong. | |||||||||||||||
3. | Petronel (Parnell) Savage see Note E above where shown by Visitation a generation later | ||||||||||||||
m. Reginald Leigh of Blackbrook | |||||||||||||||
4. | Elizabeth (sb Margaret?) Savage mentioned by Ormerod without naming husbands, see Notes D & E above re a Margaret reported as married to ... | ||||||||||||||
m1. Sir John Macclesfield (Maxfield) | |||||||||||||||
m2. Randle Mainwaring of Kirmincham | |||||||||||||||
5. | Margaret Savage m. John, son of Sir Piers Dutton, shown above a generation later | ||||||||||||||
6. | Dowse Savage m. Sir Henry Bold of Bold, shown above 3 generations later! | ||||||||||||||
7. | Mary Savage possibly 2nd wife of ... | ||||||||||||||
m. John Leigh of Boothes | |||||||||||||||
8. | Lucy Savage shown by Armstrong as m. Hamlet Carrington (possible duplication/confusion with Beatrix shown by Visitation a generation later), possibly the Lucy who marred ... | ||||||||||||||
m. John de Hellesby of Acton (d before 10.12.1463) | |||||||||||||||
9. | Maud Savage m. Sir John or Thomas Booth of Barton, shown above a generation later | ||||||||||||||
10. | Ann Savage see Note E above where shown by Visitation a generation later | ||||||||||||||
m. Charles Noel (Powell) of Dalby | |||||||||||||||
11. | Eleanor Savage possibly 2nd wife of ... | ||||||||||||||
m. Jofrey Warberton of Arley (the Geoffrey who d 1448??) | |||||||||||||||
12. | Blanch Savage mentioned by Ormerod without naming husband, see Note E above where shown by Visitation a generation later | ||||||||||||||
m. Thomas Carrington | |||||||||||||||
13. | Dorothy Savage | ||||||||||||||
m. Robert Needham of Sherington (d 1449) | |||||||||||||||
14.+ | other issue - William, Roger, George, Isabella (nun) younger sons all mentioned by Ormerod | ||||||||||||||
Main source(s):
(1) 'The Ancient and Noble Family of the Savages of the Ards' by George Francis Armstrong (1888)
(2) Ormerod (Cheshire, vol 1, Clifton),
BE1883 (Savage of Rivers), Visitation (Cheshire, 1580, Savage of Clifton)
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