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'Murray01'Index links to: Lead / Letter
Families covered: Moravia of Petyn, Moravia of Sutherland, Moray of Bothwell, Sutherland of Sutherland

it is sometimes suggested that the following Richard was connected to the early Mormaers of Moray. However, TSP (Sutherland) reports that he was "a person of unknown descent, but who is believed to be of Flemish origin, upon whom King Davd I., in pursuance, it is said, of a colonising policy, bestowed wide landed possessions."

Freskin (a 1130, d before 1166)

William (d c1203)

Hugh de Moravia of Duffus and Strabrock (d c1222)

William de Moravia, 1st Earl of Sutherland (d c1248)

William, 2nd Earl of Sutherland (d before 09.1307)

(1)

William, 3rd Earl of Sutherland (d before 12.1330)

§D

(2)

Kenneth, 4th Earl of Sutherland (d Halidon Hill 19.07.1333)

m. Mary of Mar (dau of Sir Donald, 6th Earl of Mar)

(A)

William Sutherland, 5th Earl ('King') of Sutherland (d 1370)

m1. (1343) Margaret Bruce (d by 11.1347, dau of Robert 'the' Bruce, King Robert I of Scots)

(i)

John Sutherland (dsp 08.09.1361)

m2. Joanna Menteth (dau of Sir John Menteth, Sheriff of Dunbarton)

(ii)

Robert Sutherland, 6th Earl of Sutherland (d 1442)

m. Margaret Stewart (dau of Alexander Stewart, Earl of Buchan)

(a)

John Sutherland, 7th Earl of Sutherland (d 1460)

m. Margaret Baillie (d before 28.05.1510, dau of Sir William Baillie of Lamington)

((1))

Alexander Sutherland, Master of Sutherland (dvp before 02.1455-6)

((2))

John Sutherland, 8th Earl of Sutherland (d 1508)

m1. Margaret Macdonald (dau of Alexander Macdonald, Earl ofRoss, Lord of the Isles)

((A))

John Sutherland, 9th Earl of Sutherland (d unm after 13.06.1514)

((B))

Elizabeth Sutherland, Countess of Sutherland (d 09.1535)

m. (1500) Adam Gordon, Lord of Aboyne, 'Earl of Sutherland' (d 17.03.1537-8)

Their successors became Earls of Sutherland.

m2. Fingole (dau of William of Calder, Thane of Cawdor)

((C))

Alexander Sutherland (b 1491, d 1519/20) had issue

BP1934 (Sutherland) identifies this Alexander as a legitimate son of Earl John by his second marriage and reports that he resigned his rights to the earldom in July 1509. However, TSP (Sutherland) reports that there are considerable doubts as to his legitimacy, reporting one source as saying that his mother was a daughter ofRoss of Balnagowan.

m. ?? Mackay (dau of IyeRoy Mackay of Strathnaver)

m3. Catherine (a 1512)

((3))

Nicholas Sutherland

((4))

Thomas 'Beg' Sutherland ancestor of Sutherlands of Strathallie

((5))

Robert Sutherland

((6))

Janet Sutherland

m. (10.1480) Alexander Dunbar of Conzie, Kilbuyack and Aldcash (d c31.03.1493)

partner unknown

((7))

Thomas Mor

(b)

Alexander Sutherland of Dunbeath (d after 15.11.1456)

m. Mariotta MacDonald (dau of Donald, Lord of the Isles)

((1))

Marjory Sutherland

m. (before 15.11.1456) William Sinclair, 3rd Earl of Orkney, Earl of Caithness (d 1480)

((2))

Margaret Sutherland

m. William Calder, 7th Thane of Cawdor (d 1503)

(iii)

Kenneth Sutherland of Drummoy and Forse (a 1408)

m. _ Keith (dau of Keith of Forse)

An Earl of Sutherland, possibly William 5th, had the following liaison ...

p. Helen Sinclair (dau of Earl of Orkney)

(iv)

Janet

m. Hugh Ross of Balnagowan

(B)

Nicholas Sutherland of Duffus

m. Mary le Cheyne (dau of Reginald le Cheyne)

(C)

Eustachia Sutherland

m. (c12.1330) Gilbert Moray of Culbin

(D)

daughter identified by Munro records

m. George Munro, younger of Foulis (dvp 1314)

ii.

Walter de Moravia of Duffus (d c1263)

m. Eufemia (dau of Ferchard, Earl of Ross)

Freskin de Moravia of Duffus (d by 1269)

m. Johanna, Lady Strathnaver

(1)

Mary de Moravia

m. SirReginald le Chen of Inverugie, Duffus and Straloch (d by 1312)

(2)

Christian de Moravia

m. (1262) William de Federeth (Constable of Roxburgh Castle)

iii.

Andrew, Bishop of Moray (d 1242)

William de Moravia (d before 05.10.1226)

Sir Walter de Moravia of Petyn (d 1244)

Sir William de Moravia of Petyn (d before 03.1253)

m. daughter of Malcolm, Earl of Fife

(1)

Sir Walter de Moravia of Bothwell (d by 1284)

m. ?? possibly the daughter or sister of Sir David Olifard, son of Walter Olifard of Bothwell

(A)

Sir William de Moravia 'le Riche' of Bothwell (dsp before 10.11.1300)

(B)

Sir Andrew de Moravia of Bothwell (d 1289)

m1. ?? Comyn (dau of Sir John 'the Red' Comyn, Lord of Badenoch)

(i)

Sir Andrew Moray of Bothwell (d after Stirling Bridge 1297)

(a)

Sir Andrew Moray of Bothwell,Regent (b 1298, d 1338)

m1. ??

((1))

Sir John Moray of Bothwell (dsp before 05.09.1351)

m. (1348) Margaret Graham, Countess of Menteith (b by 1334, d c1380)

((2))

Sir Thomas Moray of Bothwell (dsp 1361)

m. Joanna Moray (dau of Sir Maurice Moray of Drumsargard, Earl of Strathearn)

m2. (c10.1325) Christina Bruce (d 1357, dau of Sir Robert de Bruce, 6th Lord of Annandale)

probably father (but not sure by which wife) of ...

((3))

Margaret Moray (a 1364)

m. Sir William Fraser of Cowie & Durris (d Durham 1346)

m2. Euphemia (d 1288, widow of William Comyn of Kilbride)

(ii)

?? Moray possible but unproven connection to the Murrays of Cockpool

Sir Andrew may also have been father, though by which wife is unknown, of ...

(iii)

Sir William Moray, 1st of Drumsagard (a 1289)

ii.

William (canon of Moray)

It is understood that William son of Freskin was ancestor of the Murrays of Tullibardine but it is not known which son of that William was the ancestor. Contrary suggestions have been made but, following TSP (Atholl), we suggest that the ancestor was William (son of William son of Freskin).

iii.

?? de Moravia

Uncertain on the number of intervening generations.

(1)

Sir Malcolm de Moravia, Sheriff of Perthshire (d before 1289)

m. dau/heiress of Sir Geoffry de Gask

(A)

John Murray (a 1289)

(B)

Sir William de Moravia (or Murray) of Tullibardine, etc (a 1297)

m. (before 28.10.1284) Ada (dau of Malise, seneschal of Strathearn)

Andrew (a 1213, parson of Duffus)

Andrew, Bishop of Moray (d 1185)

Main source(s): TSP (Bothwell), TSP (Sutherland), BP1934 (Sutherland), TSP (Atholl)
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