'Comyn01'
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Families covered: Comyn of Badenoch, Comyn of Buchan, Comyn of Kilbride, Cummin of Snitterfield
| Robert de Comyn, Earl of Northumberland (d Durham 28.01.1069-70) | |||||||||||||||
| Robert came to England with William the Conqueror. It is understood that he/his family originally came from Comines in Flanders. He was slain whilst attempting to take possession of Northumberland. | |||||||||||||||
| 1. | John de Comyn (d after 1135) | ||||||||||||||
| m. ?? Giffard (dau/coheir of Adam Giffard of Fonthill) | |||||||||||||||
| A. | William de Comyn (d before 1140) TSP (Badenoch) reports that he held one-third of Fonthill, Wiltshire | ||||||||||||||
| m. Maud Basset (dau of Thurston Banaster/Basset, m2. William de Hastings) | |||||||||||||||
| i. | William de Comyn (d 1142) | ||||||||||||||
| ii. | Richard de Comyn, Justiciar (d c1179) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (c1145) Hextilda (dau of Uchtred of Tynedale) | |||||||||||||||
| a. | William de Comyn, 1st Earl of Buchan, Justiciar of Scotland (d 1233, 2nd son) | ||||||||||||||
| (1) William obtained his earldom through his second marriage so that title passed to his eldest son by that marriage. (2) TSP reports that "The name of his first wife has not been ascertained" but adds in a note that she may have been a daughter of Robert Fitzhugh. TCP (Buchan) reports that William had 3 sons by his (unnamed) 1st wife: Richard (whose son John became Earl of Angus through his wife), Walter (who became Earl of Menteith through his wife) and Sir John of Badenoch, grandfather of Sir John 'the Red' (who d 1305). We follow TSP which disagrees with TCP in showing John of Badenoch as son rather than brother of Richard but does not show how John, Earl of Angus, fits into this family. |
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| m1. ?? (Sarah??) (dau of Robert FitzHugh) | |||||||||||||||
| (1) | John Comyn, 'Earl of Angus' (dsp 1242) possibly fits here | ||||||||||||||
| m. Matilda, Countess of Angus (b c1222, d 1261, dau of Malcolm, 6th Earl of Angus) | |||||||||||||||
| (2) | Richard Comyn (d before 07.1249) | ||||||||||||||
| (A) | Sir John 'the Red' Comyn, Lord of Badenoch, Justiciar of Galloway (d after 1273) | ||||||||||||||
| TSP reports that "The surname of his wife is not known, but her Christian names was Alicia. She survived him, and married again another Comyn, with issue." TCP (Ros of Helmsley) identifes Alicia as ... | |||||||||||||||
| m. Alicia de Ros (dau of Sir William de Ros of Helmsley) | |||||||||||||||
| (i) | William Comyn of Kirkintilloch (dsp 03.08.1291) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Isabella Russell of Menteith (dau of Sir John Russell) | |||||||||||||||
| (ii) | Sir John 'the Black' Comyn, Lord of Badenoch (d c1303) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (before 1283) Alianora or Mary de Baliol (b c1246, dau of John de Baliol of Barnard Castle) | |||||||||||||||
| (a) | Sir John 'the Red' Comyn, Lord of Badenoch (d 10.02.1305-6) | ||||||||||||||
| Sir John's mother's mother's mother was Margaret of Huntingdon. Through this connection he had a strong claim to the Scots throne (given that that Margaret was elder sister of the Isobel of Huntingdon through whom Robert the Bruce had his claim). He was murdered by that Robert Bruce, after which the latter had himself crowned. | |||||||||||||||
| m. Johanna de Valence (dau of William de Valence, Earl of Pembroke) | |||||||||||||||
| ((1)) | John Comyn, Lord of Badenoch (d Bannockburn 1314) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Margaret Wake (dau of John Wake, 1st Lord) | |||||||||||||||
| ((A)) | Aymer/Adomar Comyn (d young) | ||||||||||||||
| ((2)) | Joan Comyn (b c1295, d before 24.07.1326) | ||||||||||||||
| m. David of Strathbogie, Earl of Atholl (d 28.12.1326) | |||||||||||||||
| ((3)) | Elizabeth Comyn (b 1299, a 1326) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Sir Richard Talbot, 2nd Baron (d 1356) | |||||||||||||||
| (iii) | John (2nd) Comyn | ||||||||||||||
| (iv) | daughter | ||||||||||||||
| m. Richard Siward | |||||||||||||||
| (v) | daughter | -- | |||||||||||||
| m. Godfrey/Geoffrey Moubray of Barnbougle | -- | ||||||||||||||
| (vi) | daughter | -- | |||||||||||||
| Some web sites show this daughter's mother as Marian of Galloway. | |||||||||||||||
| m. Sir Alexander MacDougall, 4th of Dunollie and of Lorn (a 1296) | -- | ||||||||||||||
| (vii) | daughter | -- | |||||||||||||
| m. Sir Andrew de Moravia of Bothwell (d 1289) | -- | ||||||||||||||
| (viii) | daughter | -- | |||||||||||||
| m. Sir William Galbrathe | -- | ||||||||||||||
| Not mentioned by TSP but reported in various sources, including Douglas's 'Baronage of Scotland' in its article on the Cumings of Altyre, was another marriage, or more likely (given that his wife Alice survived him - unless Marian was Sir John's first wife), liaison of Sir John 'the Red Comyn', being with ... | |||||||||||||||
| (m)/p. Marian of Galloway (possibly dau of Alan, lord of Galloway) | |||||||||||||||
| (ix) | Robert Cumine (a 1305) | ||||||||||||||
| m. _ Cumine (dau of _ Cumine of Lochaber) | |||||||||||||||
| (B)+ | other issue - William (a 1258), Richard (a 06.1264) | ||||||||||||||
| (3) | Walter Comyn, Lord of Badenoch, 'Earl of Menteith' (dsp 12.1258) | ||||||||||||||
| m. (c1230) Isabella, Countess of Menteith (dau of Maurice, the younger, 3rd Earl of Menteith) | |||||||||||||||
| (4) | Jean Comyn | -- | |||||||||||||
| m. William, 2nd Earl of Ross (d 05.1274) | -- | ||||||||||||||
| (5) | daughter reported by 'The Cheyne family in Scotland' | -- | |||||||||||||
| m. Sir Reginald le Chen of Inverugie (d by 1293) | -- | ||||||||||||||
| m2. (by 1214) Marjory, Countess of Buchan (dau of Fergus, Earl of Buchan) | |||||||||||||||
| (6) | Alexander Comyn, 2nd Earl of Buchan, Constable of Scotland (d 1289) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Elizabeth de Quincy (dau of Roger de Quincy, 2nd Earl of Winchester) | |||||||||||||||
| (A) | John Comyn, 3rd Earl of Buchan, Constable of Scotland (b c1259, dspm before 03.12.1308) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Isabel of Fife (dau of Duncan, 9th Earl of Fife) | |||||||||||||||
| (i) | Isabel Comyn reported by 'The Cheyne family in Scotland' | -- | |||||||||||||
| m. Francis le Chen of Straloch | -- | ||||||||||||||
| (B) | Sir Alexander Comyn (d before 03.12.1308, 3rd son) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Johanna Latimer | |||||||||||||||
| (i) | Alicia Comyn, Countess of Buchan | ||||||||||||||
| m. (before 14.07.1310) Henry de Beaumont, 1st Lord, 'Earl of Buchan' (d c03.1340) | |||||||||||||||
| (ii) | Margaret Comyn, Countess of Buchan | ||||||||||||||
| m1. Sir John Ross (dsp) | |||||||||||||||
| m2. Sir William Lindsay | |||||||||||||||
| (C) | Marjorie Comyn | -- | |||||||||||||
| m. Sir Patrick 'black beard', 8th Earl of Dunbar, 1st Earl of March (b c1242, d 10.10.1308) | -- | ||||||||||||||
| (D) | Agnes/Marjory/Egidia/Emma Comyn | -- | |||||||||||||
| Malise, 6th Earl of Strathearn (b c1257, d 1312-3) | -- | ||||||||||||||
| (E) | Elizabeth Comyn (d 1328/9) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Gilbert de Umfraville, Earl of Angus (b c1244, d 1307) | |||||||||||||||
| (F) | Elena (?) Comyn | -- | |||||||||||||
| m. Sir William of Brechin (d by 1292) | -- | ||||||||||||||
| (G) | daughter | ||||||||||||||
| m. Sir Nicholas Soulis | |||||||||||||||
| (H)+ | other issue - Roger, William | ||||||||||||||
| (7) | Idonea Comyn | -- | |||||||||||||
| m. Gilbert de Haya of Erroll, Sheriff of Perth (a 1237, 1262) | -- | ||||||||||||||
| (8) | Elizabeth Comyn (d 1267) | J | |||||||||||||
| m. William, 5th Earl of Mar (d 1281, Chamberlain) | J | ||||||||||||||
| (9) | Agnes Comyn | -- | |||||||||||||
| m. Sir Philip de Melgdrum (a 1262) | -- | ||||||||||||||
| (10)+ | other issue - Sir William, Fergus (a 1270) | ||||||||||||||
| Not known by which marriage was ... | |||||||||||||||
| (12) | Margaret Comyn | -- | |||||||||||||
| m. Sir John de Keith (d before 1270) | -- | ||||||||||||||
| b. | David de Comyn of Kilbride (d before 07.08.1247, 5th son) had issue | ||||||||||||||
| m. Isabella de Valloniis (dau of Roger de Valloniis of Easter Kilbride) | |||||||||||||||
| The following was kindly brought to our attention by a contributor (JB, 13.04.06). | |||||||||||||||
| (1) | William Comyn of Kilbride | ||||||||||||||
| m. Eufemia de Clavering (d 1288, dau of Roger FitzJohn de Clavering) | |||||||||||||||
| (A)+ ? | issue - John, Edmund | ||||||||||||||
| c.+ | other issue - John (bur before 1159), Odo, Simon | ||||||||||||||
| iii. | Walter de Comyn mentioned in TSP (Badenoch) | ||||||||||||||
| VCH (Warwickshire, vol 3, Snitterfield) reports that nephew of a William Cumin who obtained Snitterfield in Warwickshire was a Walter (a 1174). Noting the connection with the Giffards of Fonthill above & below, we think it likely that that Walter was of this family. | |||||||||||||||
| B. | ?? de Comyn of Cumin | ||||||||||||||
| i. | Walter de Comyn of Snitterfield (a 1174) probably of this generation, succeeded by ... | ||||||||||||||
| a. | William de Comyn of Snitterfield (d 1216) | ||||||||||||||
| m. Margery (m2. William de Hastings) | |||||||||||||||
| (1) | William Comyn or Cummin of Snitterfield (d 1223-4) | ||||||||||||||
| VCH (Warwickshire, vol 5, Avon Dassdett) reports that William's widow (Eve) sued for her part of her dower. This indicates that Eve was one of the heirs of Andrew Giffard of Fonthill which is supported by VCH (Warwickshire, vol 5, Halford) which reports that William was "one of the Giffard coheirs" (by right of his wife). | |||||||||||||||
| m. Eve (possibly sister of Andrew Giffard of Fonthill, m2. John de Mara) | |||||||||||||||
| (A) | Margery or Margaret Cummin | ||||||||||||||
| m. John de Cantilupe of Snitterfield | |||||||||||||||
| 2. | William de Comyn (Chancellor to King David I) | ||||||||||||||
Main source(s): TSP (Badenoch), TSP (Buchan), BE1883 (Cumyn of Buchan)
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